Easy fold here with AK, right?

VorShot · #1 11-08-2006, 09:59 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4.40
UTG+1: $11.35
Hero: $11.55
Button: $12.55
SB: $2
BB: $10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $0.45, Hero raises to $1.6, Button folds, SB raises all-in $2, BB folds,
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises all-in $11.35, Hero folds
 So here i am with AK in the CO and UTG limps in and UTG+1 raises a pot sized bet. I 3-bet the pot back and the SB goes all in for $2. The original limper calls the $2 (with only $2.20 behind) then it gets back around to the first raiser and he pushed all in. I can only assume that UTG is going to call (unless he plans to put half his stack in and fold) If i call here, if ANYONE has a pair here, and ANYONE has one of my aces or kings, i'm behind.

If the big stack has any pair, and either of the short stacks turn over ANY A or K, i'm behind.

The ONLY hands that i could beat is;
-if no one had a pair OR
-if someone DOES has a pair, i have to have 3 clean As and 3 clean Ks.

Easy fold?

kitaristi0 · #2 11-08-2006, 10:01 PM

Fold.

VorShot · #3 11-09-2006, 01:33 AM

Is that all the insight i get?

Wu36 · #4 11-09-2006, 01:35 AM

It looks like pretty sound advice. Especially since utg+1 probably isn't jamming to isolate the two shorties.

Marshall28 · #5 11-09-2006, 01:39 AM

you answered your own question bud ... theres not many hands u can beat, especially 3 way. you are likely dominated here, at best u might have 3 outs to an ace.

Dennisa · #6 11-09-2006, 01:40 AM

Very hard, seems to me UTG probably has the AK himself. Most times if he has AA then he probably raises to 4 or 5 and then shoves on the flop.

VorShot · #7 11-09-2006, 01:44 AM

Ok...i felt like it was the right fold...but man was i pissed when i saw this...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4.40
UTG+1: $11.35
Hero: $11.55
Button: $12.55
SB: $2
BB: $10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $0.45, Hero raises to $1.6, Button folds, SB raises all-in $2, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises all-in $11.35, Hero folds, UTG calls all-in $2.4.
Uncalled bets: $8.95 returned to UTG+1.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2.7, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $7.7)

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2.7, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $7.7)

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2.7, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $7.7)

Results:
Final pot: $2.7
SB showed Qd 5d
UTG showed Qc 4c
UTG+1 showed Jh As

Check_The_Nuts · #8 11-09-2006, 02:39 AM

Its OK, Maybe next time you'll reep the benefits of pure idiocy like me:

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.75
UTG+1: $10.35
CO: $12.50
Hero: $11.35
SB: $21.85
BB: $4.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $0.5, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero raises to $2.1, SB folds, BB raises all-in $4.1, UTG raises all-in $5.75, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($5.4, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $13.35)

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5.4, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $13.35)

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($5.4, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $13.35)

Results:
Final pot: $5.4
UTG showed 8h 8s
BB mucks 8d 8c

beat: The two big stacks folded :/

EDIT: Wow converter messed up pot size hardcore.

whodatdare · #9 11-09-2006, 10:13 AM

I like your reasoning here, Vorshot, and would do the same in this case. Too many times you're way behind with this much action pre flop. It can be frustrating to see these idiotic hands being played by your opponents, but thats why you're at the table. Since you play better hands than them you will get the dollars in the long run. I hope you sat back and licked your chops when you saw them playing such terrible cards, because dinnner is abouut to be served!!!!!

AaronOC · #10 11-09-2006, 10:14 AM

fold, 99% of the time he will turn over AA or KK