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Old 11-07-2006, 11:10 PM
BaHorst BaHorst is offline
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Default Early small stack shoves. My AK?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t400/t800
(Ante: t100)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3877
UTG+1: t7523
bahorst: t31778
MP2: t13965
MP3: t8804
CO: t15248
Button: t2417
SB: t12901
BB: t39761

Pre-flop: (9 players) bahorst is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in t3777</font>, UTG+1 folds, bahorst calls t3777 <font color="aaaaaa">

Do you shove in these situations? Or do i welcome a huge pot which i dont want really want? Not too close to the money yet.
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:22 PM
fsoyars fsoyars is offline
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

i think you definitely reraise to isolate here. your hand is vulnerable, especially oop. your M is around 15 though, so pushing is premature in case someone behind you wakes up with aces. if someone else moves in behind you, you can make your decision from there based on what you know about them, your odds, etc. something around 9000 i'd say is sufficient to discourage other players to come into the hand with you and isolate the all in.
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

Raise it to 9k.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

push ur stack
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

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That is an unnecessary overbet.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

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agreed. the only hands that will call you are the ones that can beat you. raise it to 9K and if the big stack in the bb (who has you covered) moves in, reconsider... fold i would say.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

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agreed. the only hands that will call you are the ones that can beat you. raise it to 9K and if the big stack in the bb (who has you covered) moves in, [b]call

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Old 11-08-2006, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

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That is an unnecessary overbet.

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agreed. the only hands that will call you are the ones that can beat you. raise it to 9K and if the big stack in the bb (who has you covered) moves in, [b]call

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never mind, i misread the op. bb does NOT have you covered. however, if they did, baking, i'd fold. you're getting 3-1 odds to call, which is good but you'd have to put bb's range on AA - QQ and AK i'd say, maybe JJ. You're getting the right odds to call against that range, but you're also behind in every case but AK. If you fold, you still have plenty of chips and a larger than avg stack. there's no need to put your tournament life on the line where you are clearly behind and have plenty of chips still behind you.
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

I probably would have pushed but the 9k bet does seem a better idea, just in case the BB goes allin. I would not then call BB if he goes all-in unless he is very loose. I would however call any of the others who might go all-in.
I would definitely not just call. Way too dangerous.
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: Early small stack shoves. My AK?

Given the stacks behind, my stack and the relatively small push, I actually quite like a call here. I'm happy to encourage any action behind except from the BB. If I'm not calling a push from BB after I've isoraised, then I don't see the point in isoraising.
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