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Old 11-07-2006, 03:07 AM
Ryno Ryno is offline
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Default river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

Live 4 handed. "Villian" knows me pretty well and its been 4 handed for a while. I have been a touch overaggro in the period leading up to this hand. It would be quite reasonable to assume he knows this.

I raise Ad2d first in. BB calls.

Flop is 975 with 2 diamonds.

Check-bet-call.

River is an Ace.

Check-bet-call.

Turn is 3 of not any flush

Check.

My plan? Check - Bet/Fold - Bet/Call?
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

Bet and win. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm not going to lie, I never lay down here, so I bet/call.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

I like how it goes flop, river, turn in your hand, but it hardly matters. You certainly have a bet, then its just a matter of game theory / inexploitability if you get checkraised. So you probably fold this time and call next time.

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Old 11-07-2006, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

"I like how it goes flop, river, turn in your hand"

LOL...the cards are in the right place, just the names are wrong.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

I'm gonna bet/call down if raised.
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

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I'm gonna bet/call down if raised.

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Are we calling a river check raise because the action is so wierd from BB, or because we have top pair in a 4 handed game? I can't see calling the raise... bet/fold for me, or like DeathDonkey said, fold this one, call next one.
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

I don't know how this 2p2er plays, but if it were against me and I view you as a solid player the correct play would be to check behind.
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

Wait, is the turn an ace or is the river an ace?

If the river is an ace then I would bet the river.

My previous post was assuming the turn was an ace.
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: river plan vs. well respected 2+2er

The chronology of the post is correct - in other words, the Ace fell on the turn.
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Old 11-07-2006, 07:11 PM
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I don't know how this 2p2er plays, but if it were against me and I view you as a solid player the correct play would be to check behind.

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If so, I would find you imminently bluffable and the commerce 100/200 regulars wouldn't even need to know this about you to play more correctly against you, they bet too much and bluff too much as it is. I think if someone can just fold K9 or something here Ryno isn't bluffing enough (and since I know he does bluff from playing 4 handed 100/200 with him and getting owned, I think he has an easy value bet here).

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