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11-04-2006, 06:18 AM
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How do you play it ???
Ok, here's a hand that I think could give a nice discussion so there it is ... I can't make up my mind on wich line is better, AND specialy WHY in that spot !!??
Also, because it's a 4 way pot and I'm first to act, it makes it a little more tricky !! [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] can't find the converter for fulltilt ... so there it is FullTiltPoker Game #1190811125: Table Coral Isle (6 max) - $25/$50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:10:33 ET - 2006/11/03 Seat 1: krisqueen ($5,000) Seat 2: Munchi ($8,751) Seat 3: Ph1LLeD1NGUE ($10,769) Seat 4: Buy in Viv ($5,869) Seat 5: Snake8484 ($6,155) Seat 6: MUCKEMSAYUHH ($10,882) Ph1LLeD1NGUE posts the small blind of $25 Buy in Viv posts the big blind of $50 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ph1LLeD1NGUE [Ac 9c] Snake8484 folds MUCKEMSAYUHH raises to $175 krisqueen calls $175 Munchi calls $175 Ph1LLeD1NGUE calls $150 Buy in Viv folds *** FLOP *** [4c Tc Ad] SO if we stop here agst 3 opponnents... lead here ?? check raise ?? check call ?? lead-push ?? what's the plan for the turn if we are called by 1 or many players ?? what if it's checked around ?? Ph1LLeD1NGUE checks MUCKEMSAYUHH checks krisqueen checks Munchi checks *** TURN *** [4c Tc Ad] [5h] here ?? Lead ?? check call ?? check raise ?? Ph1LLeD1NGUE checks MUCKEMSAYUHH bets $600 krisqueen folds Munchi folds Ph1LLeD1NGUE calls $600 *** RIVER *** [4c Tc Ad 5h] [Ts] Ph1LLeD1NGUE checks MUCKEMSAYUHH bets $1,750 --> here I think it's a fold, but I'm not sure because of the way I played it ... I kind of feel that with the check around on the flop I had no plan for the rest of the hand and got lost ... but I only beat a bluff in the end so... any comments ?? thanks 
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#2
11-04-2006, 07:23 AM
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Re: How do you play it ???
ure really hoping for A2, A3, A6-8 here or a complete bluff. i think leading the turn and blocking the river is better, or cc the river depending on how he plays. if u check the turn, ure prb going to be faced w/ calling two shells w/ little info, never fun. i do like the flop check fwiw
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#5
11-04-2006, 08:35 AM
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Re: How do you play it ???
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I was your opponent btw, maybe will respond after some discussion. [/ QUOTE ] you already did respond! LOLLOtricked ... its late, this was really funny to me
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#6
11-04-2006, 08:57 AM
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Re: How do you play it ???
for some perverse reason, i agree w bobbo. it scares me!
i don't get how this hand is all that tricky. if u like to c/r flop, c/r. if u like to lead flop, lead. i would lead. turn plan depends on who called it etc but i would probably just fire again most of the time. i do not see how this hand is very difficult.
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#7
11-04-2006, 10:10 AM
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Re: How do you play it ???
This hand is actually kinda difficult. There's a very good chance that vs some one like cts your hand is good, but it's gonna cost you a [censored] to find out, and since he's more than capable of switching into "well, since I can't play my hand, I'll play yours" mode, any single given line can backfire.
As played, I'd usually lead turn and check-call any river vs the PFR, fwiw. If it was someone other than PFR that decided to get interested, it becomes a whole different topic of discussion. Kirk
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#8
11-04-2006, 11:01 AM
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Re: How do you play it ???
I like leading the flop here for half the pot, and am willing to get it all in if raised. If someone has a club draw, I don't want them folding to a pot-size bet.
As played, I think your play on the turn is fine. I'm not concerned about a set here, because I really think most sets will bet flop with 4 people in the pot. I also think most AK or AQ type hands bet the flop, so your Ace might actually be good - I still check call here, and plan to push river if a club hits. As river played, I think the T is a huge scared card. I think calling the river is villain dependent... how tricky is cts?
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#9
11-04-2006, 11:55 AM
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Re: How do you play it ???
I like the CR on the flop. Actually, given how deep you are, it might not be so good and can make things awkward. the thing is, if you get any action on flop, your ace is generally useless and all you have is a draw. But becuase we are deep I probably lead anyways cause I dont like check calling so much and CRing makes for bad things when we miss on the turn. turn looks good, someone should try to pick it up and you can call them down/ let them bluff off their money. River id call. Its CTS, man loves to bluff when shown weakness, and you are way stronger than hed ever guess. Plus I think hed bet a T on the flop.
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