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Old 11-04-2006, 06:08 AM
rjacobs003 rjacobs003 is offline
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Default Top pair medium kicker on the flop

Thoughts on this?
No reads on the BB and CO is 50/8/16 over 26 hands - also seen him fire all the way down with an OESD.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (8 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:15 AM
zaephyr zaephyr is offline
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

Seems ok. I wouldnt put him on pair of jacks and better kicker, he would most probably raise those hands preflop.
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:20 AM
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

Since it is not necessary to protect your hand on the river, I would bet there. By check-raising BB has to call two bets cold (and folds)
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Old 11-04-2006, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

If you check, it might get checked through if CO was raising/betting a draw. If he had something else, a check raise might work, but i would also hate to see him show 44 or 77. I probably bet call this one.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

fold preflop

good bet on the flop, raise sucks

fold the turn

just bet/call the river, don't want it checked around and getting 3bet by a better J would suck too.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:39 AM
sean c sean c is offline
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

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fold preflop

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Did everyone run bad last night? Why on earth would you fold this pre flop.

OP if your read was more solid i check/raise the turn.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

Standard call PF.

Even though you have a small sample size, given stats and your read, I may 3bet this on the flop. I lead a turn undercard here many times too.

I tend to lead the river.
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Old 11-04-2006, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

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fold preflop

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Did everyone run bad last night? Why on earth would you fold this pre flop.

OP if your read was more solid i check/raise the turn.

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TJo ?? w/just two limpers ?? this is a marginal complete for me suited. I don't want to play this hand oop.

And no I didn't run bad last night. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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it's been a long grind back to even and i'm shickled titless [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-04-2006, 12:43 PM
sean c sean c is offline
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

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fold preflop

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Did everyone run bad last night? Why on earth would you fold this pre flop.

OP if your read was more solid i check/raise the turn.

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TJo ?? w/just two limpers ?? this is a marginal complete for me suited. I don't want to play this hand oop.

And no I didn't run bad last night. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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it's been a long grind back to even and i'm shickled titless [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Congrats [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

Your getting 5:1 to complete against a noted bad limper and a completely random poster. I rather raise here than fold and i am completing anything remotely playable.
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Old 11-04-2006, 12:55 PM
sean c sean c is offline
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Default Re: Top pair medium kicker on the flop

Trainslayer,

I just realized there are TWO limpers. Getting 7:1 you can't fold this. Especially with the post flop donkey being one of them.
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