400/600NL - Checkraised with an overpair x2

[aislephive]

Villain 30/10 ish, no real reads though.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($770)
Button ($134.40)
SB ($851.75)
BB ($802.50)
Hero ($709.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $21, SB calls $18, BB calls $15.

Flop: ($84) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $180</font>, BB folds, Hero ???

Villain 25/5 kinda passive.

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UTG ($478.90)
MP ($1256.70)
Hero ($393.60)
SB ($250)
BB ($455.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $16, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($44) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $98</font>, Hero ??? (he has about 130 left).

[Genitruc]

Before anyone gives a useful reply I'd like to say both of these hands make me want to puke. In hand 2 I rarely see shorties committing 1/2 their stack on a bluff but folding seems gross.

I can't see your AA being good unless the opp is retarded. almost impossible to give advice without a better read. I just don't see villain having a KQ-ish that you dominate.

[KingGordy]

Both of these are brutal spots. I think hand 1 you're probably beat by 22/33. The only hand I can see you beating that plays like this is AK. I would expect KQ or worse to just call the flop. So it's probably a fold, but I'd probably push and lose.

Hand 2 I don't know I'd probably fold but that seems kind of weak.

[soah]

First one I might fold; you raised and bet into 3 players on a Kxx flop so he has no reason not to believe that you have at least KQ or something here. He can't really have a draw and a pure bluff seems unlikely...

Second hand I push, these shortstack retards will play any pair like this because they think it's good, and they usually pay off all the way. If he managed to suckout with trash AND fastplay it against you then good for him.

[aislephive]

Continuation of hand 1 ...

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3./$6.
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $709.45
CO: $770
Button: $134.40
SB: $851.75
BB: $802.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#red">Hero raises to $21</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($84, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#red">Hero bets $60</font>, Button folds, <font color="#red">SB raises to $180</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($444, 2 players)
<font color="#red">SB bets $120</font>, Hero ???

[straper]

Agree that you should fold first hand (but i wouldn't) and push 2nd hand.

1st hand as played - what about a minraise on turn? you can safely save 250 to a push, or if he calls he probably shuts down on river. Either that or you gotta cold call and make a tough decision if he gets nasty on the river.

[shootaa]

i dont mind a call and maybe a reevlaluate the turn on 1 cuz if he's bluffing he'll give up a lot of the time.

on 2, just stick it in cuz donks cr xxy boards all the time w/ a buttload of things that ure probably beating

[KingMedicine]

in hand 2 i see villian having 88,99,1010 here often and i push his flop raise and take his stack.

in hand 1 i call flop raise and with that turn, check-call and probably lose to a set, but occassionally nail AK or KQs.

[jsnipes28]

Hand 1, fold
Hand 2, shove