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Old 11-02-2006, 12:59 AM
jjb108 jjb108 is offline
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Default 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flop...

Villian is 62 13 1.3 in small sample size (<40 hands) Can I call vs villian's expected range and what do you think his range should be and is? Range for donk vs good player here?

PF std?


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $18.80
UTG+1: $20.60
CO: $26.20
Hero: $40.05
SB: $24
BB: $23

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $1</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.35</font>, 3 folds, CO calls.

<font color="blue">I'm very happy when original PFR folds but surprised with a flat call. AA or KK come to mind...AK probably pushes but this guy is not 2+2. I've not given odds for him to call for set value. </font>

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10.05, 3 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $16</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ...</font>
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:04 AM
Yaboosh Yaboosh is offline
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flo

Please push and please be happy when he calls. 33/44/56/77/88/99/TT/JJ/KK/AA/AKs/A7/78/67 etc etc etc.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flo

Yeah I think you have to push here.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:06 AM
Big Poppa Smurf Big Poppa Smurf is offline
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flop...

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I've not given odds for him to call for set value.

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this doesn't mean that he doesn't have one.

yeah this spot sucks I would just shove and hope to be ahead, given your limited read I think we're good here a bunch
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flo

Thanks...I pushed. Seems standard but I hate the minraise.

Any dissents?
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:08 AM
Sh@i'tan Sh@i'tan is offline
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flo

I push and im happy about it, 88/99/TT/JJ all do this.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flop...

Preflop is Fine.

Flop: hmmmm. could be AA. or maybe a set.. im definitely nervouse at this point and COs low AF isnt helping. but hes really loose PR and mildly aggressive. its probably a set or the str8. two pair... errr. given teh board not likely. I dont like pushing because it only gets called by better hands. I think JJ/TT can fold here unless hes just a total idiot, which looks very possible. but even then he has to give you some respect for RR preflop.

Folding is probably the right answer...
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flo

JJ/TT do not fold for 6 more dollars.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flo

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JJ/TT do not fold for 6 more dollars.

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6 more dollars? first... its $8 to see the turn, and second.... were playing for stacks here so if we are going to call the min raise, we have to be prepared to call when villian pushes the turn... which costs us $14 more..
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: 25NL (6 Max) I RR with QQPF and am minraised with overpair on flo

actually thinking about i reverted to my trusty old thought process, which has stood me in good stead now for many a year. it goes a little something like this:

Villain is really bad. I have an overpair. I want to get all in.
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