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Old 11-01-2006, 06:46 PM
Hielko Hielko is offline
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Default AK UI against a TAG

Like my turn line?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...

PS. I play QQ/KK/AA the same.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

Have you seen him fold in this type of spot? A lot of "TAG"s will just call you down with a pair here. I guess that gets you a cheap showdown with the chance of his folding, so that's cool. What do you do if he threebets?
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:19 PM
DrModern DrModern is offline
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

Spew.

I fold the turn.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:25 PM
Hielko Hielko is offline
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

I would fold against a 3-bet since it would mean that i'm drawing dead most of the time.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

No. 3-bet the flop if you really want to move him off a hand. I would just call the turn.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

I think it's going to be tough to get him to fold an overpair on this board, I don't mind it if you put him on a draw (ie u know he c/r with FD's, obv that's not the case here)

My only question is: does he know this?
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

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No. 3-bet the flop if you really want to move him off a hand. I would just call the turn.

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Don't you think a turn raise looks stronger (or is it just 2 expensive?)
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:45 PM
YesMehFriend YesMehFriend is offline
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

Does villain know you're a tag? If not this is spew and even if he does he'll always take JJ+ (maybe 99/TT) to showdown (maybe even 3-bet).
(Btw.: If he doesn't think at an advanced level, the two pairing makes it look like a very bad bluff-raise ...).

That said: call the turn, you should have almost 6 clean outs (unless he is tricky and calls KK/AA pf ...).
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:07 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

I see nothing that this accomplishes

we're not pushing him off anything better here. Period. he's not folding 99 or TT here.
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: AK UI against a TAG

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No. 3-bet the flop if you really want to move him off a hand. I would just call the turn.

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Don't you think a turn raise looks stronger (or is it just 2 expensive?)

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Its really expensive, and hes never folding any pair on this board...
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