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Old 10-28-2006, 08:57 PM
aislephive aislephive is offline
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Default Trips facing river raise from Tag

Button is 22/19 ish, seems solid.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $200
Button: $197
SB: $98
BB: $197

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#red">Hero raises to $7</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
<font color="#red">Hero bets $11</font>, Button calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($39, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($39, 2 players)
<font color="#red">Hero bets $26</font>, <font color="#red">Button raises to $80</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-28-2006, 09:01 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Trips facing river raise from Tag

Call. A raise has no value on the river. What were you going to do if button bet the turn?
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Old 10-28-2006, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: Trips facing river raise from Tag

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Call. A raise has no value on the river. What were you going to do if button bet the turn?

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Probably call and lead the river if he bet.

Obviously I'm not going to raise the river, call or fold.
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Old 10-28-2006, 09:54 PM
Marshall28 Marshall28 is offline
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Default Re: Trips facing river raise from Tag

why check the turn? what are you worried hes calling w/ k10+ or 22? ... he is calling raises he probably has a PP ... even if he doesnt, you lose to k10 kj kq ak k2, but you are beating 7 other combinations.

if you bet the turn and he raises you there, you obviously have a much easier decision than you have on the river. he could have hit queens or 7s full ... 7s more likely i suppose. you definitely have to call because as jay said a raise has no value.
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Trips facing river raise from Tag

I call because this is such a weird line. I expect to see a FH often though (77, K7, and KQ prob). On second thought, this might just be a fold.
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:42 PM
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I probably call, but I think there is a good chance that we are behind. 77 looks like a good possibility.
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:44 PM
Kebberss Kebberss is offline
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Default Re: Trips facing river raise from Tag

77/KQ, fold looks good.
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Old 10-28-2006, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: Trips facing river raise from Tag

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why check the turn? what are you worried hes calling w/ k10+ or 22? ... he is calling raises he probably has a PP ... even if he doesnt, you lose to k10 kj kq ak k2, but you are beating 7 other combinations.

if you bet the turn and he raises you there, you obviously have a much easier decision than you have on the river. he could have hit queens or 7s full ... 7s more likely i suppose. you definitely have to call because as jay said a raise has no value.

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Why do people assume that because I checked the turn I thought I was behind? The reason I checked was to disguise my hand.

Anyways, I was pretty sure I was beat but talked myself into a call. 77 was good (that was the exact hand I put him on too).
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Old 10-28-2006, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: Trips facing river raise from Tag

on the turn we dont try to disguise our hands .. .we try to control the size of a pot .. if you wanted to disguise your hand you shuold have checked the flop.
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Old 10-28-2006, 11:34 PM
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on the turn we dont try to disguise our hands .. .we try to control the size of a pot .. if you wanted to disguise your hand you shuold have checked the flop.

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That is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
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