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Old 10-27-2006, 04:28 PM
IFlushedTheNuts IFlushedTheNuts is offline
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Default My first NL hand ever, please rate

Hello,

This is my first NL hand ever! I got dealt AKs, I will never forget that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] How do you rate my play? Why was it bad/good?

I think my pre-flop raise was a standard play. Did I have to fold to his re-raise (which put me all-in)? Why (not)?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.90
UTG+1: $1.80
MP1: $4.70
ProBoj: $2
MP3: $1.71
CO: $13.05
Button: $2.90
SB: $6
BB: $19.13

Pre-flop: (9 players) ProBoj is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.1 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.15)</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.1 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.25)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">ProBoj raises to $0.4</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $2.15</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">ProBoj calls all-in $1.5</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.65 returned to SB.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3.3)


Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3.3)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3.3)
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:30 PM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

read the faq's
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:35 PM
CityFan CityFan is offline
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

Yes, you had to call.

But please, please buy in for the maximum not the minimum.

Then you might have learned something about playing after the flop.
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:42 PM
Tien Tien is offline
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

yeah read the FAQs

You have a lot more to learn. Especially the idea of playing with full stacks.

Being as short stacked as you are, this is a no brainer allin.
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:49 PM
IFlushedTheNuts IFlushedTheNuts is offline
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

I will read the FAQs, yes. As this was my first game ever, I bought in for the minumum. Why is this a no brainer allin?

thanks all
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:02 PM
Antinome Antinome is offline
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

It is a no brainer because nobody will credit a shortstack with having a hand that good.
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

The call is a no brainer because you're getting 18-15 odds from the pot, and your chances of winning the pot are better than that:

You're crushing a worse ace
You're a favourite against two lower cards
You're a slight underdog to a pair lower than kings
You have outs against KK
Even against AA, you could make a flush

I haven't filled in the precise odds in each case, but you get the picture. Then if you consider the range of hands that your opponent might make this reraise with, it becomes obvious that your chances of winning justify the call.

These kind of preflop decisions are something you'll get used to in NL, especially if you play tourneys.


Btw, notice that you could have made a LOT more money out of this hand if you'd bought in for the max. Sure, you'll make mistakes at first but if you're worried about losing the money, start at a lower limit.

Losing your whole stack in one hand is just part of NL...
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:08 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

I'll rate it:

+5 points for perfect preflop play
+5 points for being good at hitting flops
-10 points for sitting shortstacked

Overall, you get 0 points.





















OK, if the sarcasm isn't transpartent I'll translate. The one mistake in the hand is sitting short, other than that it was textbook. Nice hand.
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:23 PM
Jouster777 Jouster777 is offline
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

Everyone here hates short stacks. However, there's nothing wrong with short stacks if you are using a reasonable short stack strategy. one short stack post (do a search for more)

Short stacks are don't take full advantage if you are better at postflop play than your opposition. Conversely, short stacks reduce your disadvantage if you are not as good post flop and most of the action is preflop or flop.

Advantages: simplified decisions, straightforward strategies (if you take some time to learn them - clearly you haven't given you have any question about this hand), others at the table play to the other large stacks and therefore may not play you optimally.

Disadvantages: stunts your learning, pain in the ass for those of us playing with full stacks
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Old 10-27-2006, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: My first NL hand ever, please rate

I agree with Jouster, OP is just starting out in NL, there is nothing wrong with being in short to get a feel for the game and learn while keeping decisions simple.

*However*, I still think you bought in way too short, something like $5 is ok.
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