Ace King in crisis

ajmargarine · #1 10-25-2006, 08:54 PM

Villian is a decent player, IMO. Comments welcome.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $73.70
Hero: $71.65
CO: $165.70
Button: $49.25
SB: $118.35
BB: $51.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.5, SB raises to $7, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($18.5, 2 players)
SB bets $11, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($40.5, 2 players)
SB bets $23, Hero...

the machine · #2 10-25-2006, 09:17 PM

well if you are calling on the turn because you are still ahead then you must still be ahead. if villain is a decent player then i dont think he check min raises and leads turn with a flush draw. if you were ahead on the turn that was worthy of a call the river may be as well.

IMO i dont think we are ahead here and i think its a fold. i usually spew off on the turn as well and give up to a decent river bet as in this hand when its very possible im beat. i dunno i htink its a fold in general, but the first part of my repsonse is to get an idea from you on your turn call

ColdSteel · #3 10-25-2006, 09:59 PM

The intersting street is the turn, not the river, IMO. Like machine said, if you were ahead on the turn, youre ahead on the river. The chance that he CMR/bets here with a draw seems slim. If he CMRed the flop with a draw, he'll probably get limp when you call the raise.

That said, if there is a fold here (and I think there is sometimes) it's on the turn. There are not many weaker kings that CMR the flop.

ajmargarine · #4 10-25-2006, 10:04 PM

In my eyes his hand range is:

9x sometimes
AK sometimes
luckboxed his way into 66 once in a blue moon.
draw seems doubtful to me
some junk I beat once in a blue moon.

I can't really put him on a hand I beat. I'm sure I tie a nice portion of the time.

I don't like this hand so much. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

the machine · #5 10-25-2006, 10:08 PM

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In my eyes his hand range is:

9x sometimes
AK sometimes
luckboxed his way into 66 once in a blue moon.
draw seems doubtful to me
some junk I beat once in a blue moon.

I can't really put him on a hand I beat. I'm sure I tie a nice portion of the time.

I don't like this hand so much. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

well whats your image. i know youve been lagging it up on FT. how do you htink he views you. if he thinks you are lag i def think he reraises ak here preflop. yeah i dont like the hand much either

ColdSteel · #6 10-25-2006, 10:22 PM

OK, I'm going to man-up and commit to a line.

I think you should fold the turn.

Chubbers · #7 10-25-2006, 10:37 PM

Why not re-raise the flop? Are you behind here? If you're prepared to call an $11 turn bet why not re-raise the flop to $15. Or are you trying to keep the pot small at this point?

The flop re-raise bothers me when the board pairs and i have the blinds call.... Also another question, why exclude KK from his range? Do you think he'd re-raise PF 100% of the time with KK?

At best i think you're splitting here, i can't see you ahead.

Typically i'd fold the turn. As is I think i'd call the river getting 3 to 1.

the machine · #8 10-25-2006, 10:40 PM

nope im sorry i misread your post in microbrew. thought it said 33 VPIP not 23

so you havent been lag and if he knows this then he def has to feel he has you beat here.

i think we have to fold

HitNRunPoster · #9 10-25-2006, 10:47 PM

AJ, sorry to switch the topic, but would you mind telling us how you knew that he was a decent player? Basically did you see him show down a few times and see him do something like check through the turn with top pair, etc? Or are you just talking about his pf stats and general post flop tightness?

pokerchap · #10 10-25-2006, 10:52 PM

c/c all the way down is fine here. a turn fold is perfectly fine imo. after the check minraise we can very easily put him on a 9.