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Old 10-25-2006, 11:38 AM
ColdDecker333 ColdDecker333 is offline
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Default 5 CD basic strategy?

I saw once posted in 2+2 a short basic strategy guide for 5 CD. Anyone know the URL? Thanks!
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: 5 CD basic strategy?

I don't know the URL but these should suffice for opening
requirements. There are also some Wiesenberg articles in
Card Player that may be of help although some of the advice
is slightly inaccurate.

For the following, X,Y and Z are cards that are of a higher
rank than the pair. Also, x,y and z are "small cards".

Hands invariably worth open raising (if first one in
voluntarily) in 5-handed limit draw:

utg) QQX+, JJAKQ
cutoff) JJX+, TTXYZ
button) 99X+, 88XYZ
sb)55XY+

Slightly worse hands can usually be opened for a raise too,
but I won't go into details. On the other hand, pairs that
are significantly worse should be folded except when in the
small blind. From the small blind, usually you can limp in
profitably with any hand better than ATxyz, but you clearly
want to raise with 66 or better (and you can select some
trapping hands to limp in with).

It's best to adopt a raise or fold approach if opening
unless you have a good reason: e.g., you have quads or a
hand such as QsJsJhTs8s/utg (you may elect to call if the
conditions are about right).

Some hands that are also worth opening are:

a) a straight flush draw
b) an AK-high or AQ-high flush draw
c) other flush draws with a very high offsuit card
d) KQJTx*
e) AKQJx*

*normally, you want a decent chance to win before the draw
and a decent chance to bluff successfully if you catch a
brick after the draw

Usually weak openended straight draws and weak flush draws
are worthless except when played inexpensively from either
blind. Unless you are open raising or defending a blind
inexpensively, almost any drawing hand that is not a sraight
flush draw can be folded.

If someone has already entered the pot without raising,
unless you know that player is a frequent trapper, it is
usually correct to raise with KKA or better and sometimes it
may be correct to raise with a hand as weak as JJXY. If
there is only one limper, you usually can't limp in for a
small bet profitably with less than a straight flush draw or
an AK-high flush draw; however, if you are on the button
and there are two limpers, any flush draw is normally
profitable to limp in with but any straight draw weaker than
KQJT is of dubious value.

The above is just a start.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:29 AM
BenJammin' BenJammin' is offline
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Default Re: 5 CD basic strategy?

thats a great crash course, thanks
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: 5 CD basic strategy?

Also, watch your opponents and think in terms of the Theory of Poker. Depending on your opponent and the action predraw, it could be correct to bet 96644 on the end but check KsQsJsTs4h, or it could be correct to check 96644 but bet KsQsJsTs4h.
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Old 11-16-2006, 06:11 AM
cameronw01 cameronw01 is offline
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Default Re: 5 CD basic strategy?

The Cardplayer article.

+100 big bets at 1/2 today in about 750 hands. SHIP IT! I literally do exactly what that article says. Just look for the people that have never played before - they are absolute ATMs.
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Old 11-16-2006, 09:35 PM
Murakawa Murakawa is offline
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Default Re: 5 CD basic strategy?

Stop taking my fish! I've been play draw for a year now! I think Wisenberg is the authority, and those articles are great but he doesn't go into great detail about Post draw action because "it depends". I think knowing when to call raise or fold after the draw is what makes great players better than good ones. And how they play 2pair, of course. But the best way to play after the draw is to notes on your opponents. Do they check raise? Will they call a bet with a pair of aces ?(if they won't, it is often profitable to bet into them with nothing, if you get called you have shown a loose image and will get payed off later, and if you get raised you can usually fold). Will they call with any 2pair?

Some players won't even raise post draw with trips, and some always try to check raise. These are the kinds of thing you can make a lot of money with. However, most 1/2 players are weak tight and you can be a total robot and make 12bb/100 at a good table.
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Old 11-18-2006, 01:29 AM
Lt Barclay Lt Barclay is offline
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Default Re: 5 CD basic strategy?

any advice regarding pl adjustments?
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: 5 CD basic strategy?

you make all your money at 5d by drawing at nut flushes,thats why t he game is called draw
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: 5 CD basic strategy?

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you make all your money at 5d by drawing at nut flushes,thats why t he game is called draw

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I feel like you don't hit these enough for this to be true. Also, the game is called draw because you draw cards and not for your idiotic reasonin.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:24 AM
spooky shadows spooky shadows is offline
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you make all your money at 5d by drawing at nut flushes,thats why t he game is called draw

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I feel like you don't hit these enough for this to be true. Also, the game is called draw because you draw cards and not for your idiotic reasonin.

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seriously wpr don't waste your time responding to this guy he will just tell yah yah keep taking xtasy and speed dude keep taking xtasy and speed
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