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Old 10-24-2006, 08:48 PM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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Default $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

Got fancy with KK, trying to get action, got into difficulty postflop, and had no idea where I was, is pushing and not getting called a better option? I had this guy as a little LAG, but nothing out of the ordinary.

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
8 players
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I got 1325, one guy has 2600 rest range from 1700-1450 8 left.

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, Hero calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t240</font>, BB folds, Hero calls t190 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t340)</font>.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t530, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t240</font>, Hero calls t240 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t770)</font>.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1010, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t844</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t845</font>, SB calls t1 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2699)</font>.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t2700, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2700)

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Old 10-24-2006, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

I fold postflop, fold turn.

Raise KK, goddamit.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

preflop i think this is okay sometimes, but postflop seems like spewage.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

I dont hate the limp but shove after his raise.
Limp/calling is acceptable with AA but not KK.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

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I dont hate the limp but shove after his raise.
Limp/calling is acceptable with AA but not KK.

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Seems sensible, I would normally raise myself, but I didn't, I guess not pushing over his raise makes it even worse, this is telling me what I know myself.

Thanks Mack
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

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I dont hate the limp but shove after his raise.
Limp/calling is acceptable with AA but not KK.

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Old 10-24-2006, 09:07 PM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

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I dont hate the limp but shove after his raise.
Limp/calling is acceptable with AA but not KK.

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Seems sensible, I would normally raise myself, but I didn't, I guess not pushing over his raise makes it even worse, this is telling me what I know myself.

Thanks Mack

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Plenty fine. I have FPSd myself to death much worse than this. It's not a sin to do what you did preflop but just don't get in a habit of it. Shove when you get the raise you wanted.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

fold flop
fold turn
proceed to kick yourself in the nuts for not playing this better
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: $114 - Preflop FPS with KK

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I dont hate the limp but shove after his raise.
Limp/calling is acceptable with AA but not KK.

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Seems sensible, I would normally raise myself, but I didn't, I guess not pushing over his raise makes it even worse, this is telling me what I know myself.

Thanks Mack

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Plenty fine. I have FPSd myself to death much worse than this. It's not a sin to do what you did preflop but just don't get in a habit of it. Shove when you get the raise you wanted.

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limping EP and then shoving over a raise sets off warning bells in my mind, not sure why you dont just open raise, unless your opponent are horrible and always raise PF and then call shoves there is no reason to deviate from the norm here. especially if you cant get away from this when the ace flops and you see 2 bets
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