I really hate my line

Fight Club · #1 10-22-2006, 02:52 PM

from v few hands he's 18/14. note: I almost always 3bet this

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($164.40)
Button ($1020)
Hero ($1992)
BB ($1128.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises to $40, Hero calls $35, 1 fold.

Flop: ($90) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $50, Hero calls $50.

Turn: ($190) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $90, Button calls $90.

River: ($370) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $160, Hero calls $160.

Final Pot: $690

luckychewy · #2 10-22-2006, 02:58 PM

don't understand the 1/2 pot turn donk bet. i think u should check the turn, fold if he bets, v-bet a blank riv otherwise.

dtan05 · #3 10-22-2006, 03:00 PM

I woulda cr'd the flop.

Fight Club · #4 10-22-2006, 03:06 PM

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don't understand the 1/2 pot turn donk bet.

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I probably have the best hand
worse hands call
Im OOP and want some info
I expect him to pull a difficult bluff/vbet ratio on a ton of rivers

DonButtons · #5 10-22-2006, 03:42 PM

very ugly line

suprised villan didnt raise turn.

lennytheduck · #6 10-22-2006, 05:05 PM

1. 3-bet PF
2. As played, lead the flop, not the turn.

Even an 18/14 is raising a lot of smut from the button. No real reason not to repop it here.

shootaa · #7 10-22-2006, 07:43 PM

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1. 3-bet PF
2. As played, lead the flop, not the turn.

Even an 18/14 is raising a lot of smut from the button. No real reason not to repop it here.

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also by not 3 betting, ure setting ureself up for something crazy postflop in most cases w/ JJ. as playd, id fold river if he's tight enough to not be opening light from the button. 18/14 isnt THAT tight tho, like someone else said

luckychewy · #8 10-22-2006, 07:45 PM

oh yea as played def call. he might v-bet tt or so here since u will almost never have jj or a q here. and ur getting 3:1.

Petey_TKE · #9 10-22-2006, 07:56 PM

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from v few hands he's 18/14. note: I almost always 3bet this

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($164.40)
Button ($1020)
Hero ($1992)
BB ($1128.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises to $40, Hero calls $35, 1 fold.

Flop: ($90) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $50, Hero calls $50.

Turn: ($190) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $90, Button calls $90.

River: ($370) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $160, Hero calls $160.

Final Pot: $690

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1) 3-bet pf and fold to a push with those stats (maybe im nitty), as you sit now you have no info as to whether your ahead or behind.

2) As played C/R flop...
3) As played 150$ on the turn. Fold to a re-raise as I cant think of a single hand you beat that would RR this turn.
2) As played C/C river or a 250$ bet.

DG

Fight Club · #10 10-22-2006, 08:11 PM

stats are over ~50 hands. Looks like people prefer to get it in on the flop:

Leading we miss out on picking up a cbet.

If we c/r flop what worse hands call? its not like its draw heavy or anything.

3-bet blah blah....Its probably good to cold call PF some % of the time.