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Old 10-20-2006, 11:33 PM
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Default Stud 8 - 4567 vs. better?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (2.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls $0.25 and is all-in
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls

5th Street - (4.65 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___all-in
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___?????
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls

Chicken-call 5th and 6th if don't catch a non-pairing baby or what?
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Old 10-21-2006, 12:39 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Stud 8 - 4567 vs. better?

That's an uncomfortable spot to be sure. I think it's a fold. You're drawing to a rough Seven and the other guy is showing a Six. The other player may well a better low draw than yours as well. Two of your straight cards are gone, and his diamonds are pretty live. The pot is small. You're probably laying three bets to try to win a little more than two bets. If the guy behind you over-calls, you might hope that you can chop him up, but I don't think that's enough to swing this to a call.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Stud 8 - 4567 vs. better?

I call one bet here in last pos. if he caught the offsuit 6, because it's much more likely you would still have a chance to scoop. The raise could mean a 4 flush on 4th. Against his board, what can you catch to make you feel comfortable? It's not unreasonable that you could be drawing dead. Drawing to uncertainty means to you can't push the later streets, so this promising hand has become unprofitable.
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Old 10-24-2006, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Stud 8 - 4567 vs. better?

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Seat 1 was a bad player but with how strongly he was pushing his hand and how scary his board was getting, I figured I'm only getting half the pot at best, even if I do make my hand. So I folded.

Seat 1 had A3 with no diamonds and Seat 8 had A2 and took half with Aces up.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Stud 8 - 4567 vs. better?

i'd fold 5th last to act all day long. Even if you aren't drawing dead now, his low/straight/flush draw is insanely live.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Stud 8 - 4567 vs. better?

The pot isnt huge yet

I think I would look at it from the perspective that you are drawing at the best high hand at this point with a small chance of making the best low. Also factoring in that some guy with a J in the door is all-in I would most likely fold here. Not an easy fold by any means, but still a fold IMO.
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