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Old 10-18-2006, 10:58 PM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Default A good time to stop and go?

this hand is from a session review I am reviewing for someone.

Reads: Its a crypto table and puckered up quite tight. I am at least 100 hands into the session and opponent has been at the table the entire time. Opponent here is reasonably tight and aggressive. Seems position aware and is aggressive yet is perfectly capable of folding too. He is not a LAG..he seems very taggish but since he isnt showing down much its hard to tell how good a tag he is.

Our hero probably has a very tight table image as he has been card dead.

I like this steal attempt but I would 3bet this mofo on the flop.....what do you think? as played, do you like the turn?

Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(8 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: A good time to stop and go?

I think Hero's line is good. He gets the maximum here from a weaker hand (like A5), and might even fold a better nine.
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: A good time to stop and go?

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I think Hero's line is good. He gets the maximum here from a weaker hand (like A5)

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And gives up the maximum to better hands, which you are far more likely to be facing. What better 9 is folding here?
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: A good time to stop and go?

i kind of like it.
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: A good time to stop and go?

Oz, i see no one else has also suggested 3betting the flop, but I like it. If BB leads the turn, well than he may have something better than a 9 with a decent kicker. He could also have been raising a flush draw. If he checks on the turn with a non-club, a bet may pick up the pot here. If c/r'd we can safely fold.
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: A good time to stop and go?

I'd 3bet the flop. Too many turn cards kill your action or make it tough for you to raise.
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: A good time to stop and go?

what do you do if villian
a. calls the raise and donks a safe river card?
b. as played, villian 3bets the turn?
c. hero 3 bets the flop and villian then donks the turn?
d. as played, turn is an overcard
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:00 AM
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a. call because of the pot size and the fact thats its a blind battle and not a multi-way pot.

b. fold

c. call

d. not sure
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: A good time to stop and go?

a. call
b. fold
c. call down
d. bet and say be-it like Teddy KGB on Rounders, out loud, so my wife wonders what the hell I'm doing.
[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: A good time to stop and go?

I like this line and use it a fair bit HU. I think we're good more often than not on the flop, though some villains can get tricky in these situations so I really want to get to SD in a hand like this so I can get a read.

a. call - I think we take the pot down often plus I want to see what villain has

b. fold - hard to imagine villain is this aggro with less than TP better kicker

c. tough one, I'm probably folding if the turn is a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or an overcard, and calling otherwise, I'm kinda torn though

d. c/c - hard to call a c/r and I wanna SD (I'm assuming villain just called the turn raise)
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