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Old 10-16-2006, 12:18 AM
SteelWheel SteelWheel is offline
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Default 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

This is a hand from this past Friday evening at Foxwoods--Greg was sitting two seats to my right (returning to the hometown for FARGO--good times), and not involved in the hand, but questioned my play after the hand was over.

10/25 NL, I have one of the smaller stacks at the table, approximately $3500. UTG (much larger stack than mine) limps, everyone else folds, I'm in the cutoff with [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]65. I stick in a pot-sweetener, making it $100 to go. The blinds fold, and the limper calls, leaving me heads-up.

Flop is 732, rainbow with one heart. He checks, I bet $150, he calls. Turn is K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]--we both check. River is A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. My opponent bets $200. I called, showed my hand, and took it down. I didn't bother seeing what my opponent had--he disgustedly mucked. Best guess is he had a big Ace, perhaps even AK.

Greg sort of nudged me a little at this point, saying something to the effect of "The Ace of Hearts was on the river? And you just called?" He seemed to think that I should have gone for some kind of raise on the end. I didn't think that there was any more value to be gotten from the hand. IMHO, a raise just kind of screams "flush", so if he can call a raise, he's going to have me beat here. OTOH, my opponent can go for the reraise with no flush, and put me to an uncomfortable decision.

I indicated as much to Greg, and he said, "That's OK if he reraises, you'll just make more money." I guess he thought my opponent was so unlikely to have a hand that could beat mine, that raising was a straight out value play.

So which is it? Did I chicken out and possibly miss some potential profit here? Or did I do OK to just win a modest size pot here?
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

your opponent definitely has two pair here and will pay you off, it's an easy raise.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:23 AM
Dan BRIGHT Dan BRIGHT is offline
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

You be sweetenin the pot
But you fearin the king
You dont bet your goods
Or raise anything
Maybe you save money
Against a bigger flush
But as far as it really goes
You play like a puss
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

definite raise
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

rhyming flush with puss, weak.

cmon dan, bring out your A game
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:30 AM
Terrabon98 Terrabon98 is offline
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

i don't think a raise here is necessarily a flush at all...I would raise this all day and not think twice about it.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

[ QUOTE ]
You be sweetenin the pot
But you fearin the king
You dont bet your goods
Or raise anything
Maybe you save money
Against a bigger flush
But as far as it really goes
You play like a puss

[/ QUOTE ]

awesome.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:33 AM
Bill King Bill King is offline
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

i think raymer is right on here IMHO.. say you raise.. and he doesnt pay you off.. he's not seeing your hand regardless and will play the river a little more cautiously on you which will allow you to make plays and has great meta value.

i think you get a crying call from villain here a lot of the time.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

[ QUOTE ]
You be sweetenin the pot
But you fearin the king
You dont bet your goods
Or raise anything
Maybe you save money
Against a bigger flush
But as far as it really goes
Your play makes fellow 2p2er blush

[/ QUOTE ]
fyp
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: 10/25 NL hand--odd FossilMan comment?

Bet the turn, raise the river.
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