Borgata Ruling

[rock1]

Whats your ruling here..playing 25/50 NL at borgata...on the turn player A checks, player B bets 1500, and player A throws out a packaged $5k in cash plus a hundred chip without saying raise...is this a raise or not?

[Vern]

Was the 5k cash in his chip stack?

[rock1]

yes, cash plays at the borgata, player actually had 10k in cash and about 4k in chips in front of him

[poker327]

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cash plays at the borgata

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Since when? At least in the lower limit NL games, cash does not play.

[rock1]

it plays in the uncapped games (10/25+)

[soah]

I don't see how this could not be considered a raise.

[Arbitrage]

I think its a raise bc he threw in the 100 chip.

[Vern]

Second question, did he throw them in at the exact same time or one then another (in the latter case, which order) Without a declaration, if he put them in at exactly the same time or pushed them out as a package, it is a 3600 raise, if he threw out the money then the chip, the chip shoud be returned and it is a 3500 raise. If the 100 chip is put out first, then it is a call and only 1400 of the cash comes in.

[rock1]

the chip was placed on top of the cash and placed into pot at same time...

[FiftyOuts]

The raise is obvious. Were you there this weekend?