Full house facing ridiculous display of strength, how many river bets?

soah · #1 10-15-2006, 01:28 AM

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (3.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (11.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

This guy just joined the table very recently and I haven't yet made any notes on him, and I've never played with him before.

And fwiw he was sitting several seats away from me and there were people sitting out in those seats between us, so when I was deciding whether to cap preflop I just saw all the seats full and thought I had raised from further than one off the button.

All the raises on the turn were pretty much instant. What do I want to do on the river?

MacGuyV · #2 10-15-2006, 01:31 AM

check/call

TheGunner · #3 10-15-2006, 01:32 AM

He checked the flop after a preflop 3bet and capped the turn. That means KK.

I would c/c river.

milesdyson · #4 10-15-2006, 01:33 AM

LOL what a nightmare. like you said a preflop cap is standard (even if all those guys folded and werent sitting out imo). you wouldnt bet the river unless you wanted to 3-bet, and i don't really feel like i should c/r. this play is too standard with KK and superbly unstandard with everything else. diamonds bet the flop. 6x doesnt 3-bet preflop much. KT bets flop.

check call [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ?

kross · #5 10-15-2006, 01:37 AM

Flop check + turn craziness means KK almost always. Some idiots will do this with AA or AK, but you're usually toast. Or maybe A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I think if you bet the river, he'll just call with any of those hands that you beat, and will raise when you're behind. If you check, he always bets. I think check/call is best.

Scary_Tiger · #6 10-15-2006, 02:22 AM

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Flop check + turn craziness means KK almost always. Some idiots will do this with AA or AK, but you're usually toast. Or maybe A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I think if you bet the river, he'll just call with any of those hands that you beat, and will raise when you're behind. If you check, he always bets. I think check/call is best.

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TomBrooks · #7 10-15-2006, 05:15 AM

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I think if you bet the river, he'll just call with any of those hands that you beat, and will raise when you're behind. If you check, he always bets. I think check/call is best.

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soah · #8 10-15-2006, 05:24 AM

OK, I get the idea.

So I have a bit of a leak where I sometimes forget to auto-check the next street after someone caps and a blank falls, so I bet the river and he raised me, and I called, and he had AQs.

I was actually afraid I might get berated for slowing down too soon, MUBS, weak-tight, etc. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

AdamL · #9 10-15-2006, 07:12 AM

Well, wait a minute, he might be going for the free showdown cap. Didn't think of that. Did you.

MacGuyV · #10 10-15-2006, 12:48 PM

It's never correct to bet the river OOP after getting capped on the turn.