Fold this river, largish pot

Absolution · #1 10-14-2006, 07:55 PM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Should have raised here, but I'm playing weak due to the massive downswing.

Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB raises, Hero...

A lot of draws came in there and the pot isn't huge yet. I have only been at the table for just over an orbit, but this guy has been loose and passive.

bozlax · #2 10-14-2006, 08:09 PM

Meh, really not enough information to know what to do. Protected pot, passive opponent, prolly a fold, but the only way you get really effed calling is if Button 3-jacks it. So, unless the Button smells tricky to you, whatever.

RcrdBoy · #3 10-14-2006, 08:13 PM

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I have only been at the table for just over an orbit, but this guy has been loose and passive.

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Based on your limited read and the size of the pot a fold is in order.

VickreyAuction · #4 10-14-2006, 08:15 PM

It's a protected pot checkraise from a LPP, so I'd fold.

bottomset · #5 10-14-2006, 10:08 PM

fold

Big Poppa Smurf · #6 10-15-2006, 02:24 AM

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It's a protected pot checkraise from a LPP, so I'd fold.

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i don't know if most 0.5-1 players know what a protected pot is so i wouldn't even worry about that, if he is loose and passive you're beat here. the other dooder will still call so you can see his hand anyway.

Scary_Tiger · #7 10-15-2006, 02:25 AM

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fold

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shimoda · #8 10-15-2006, 06:01 AM

I would fold

nofutures · #9 10-15-2006, 06:24 AM

Raise preflop.
Fold the river.

Maybe: don't bet the river if you will fold to a raise? I think this reasoning doesn't apply here.

DrModern · #10 10-15-2006, 11:24 AM

I think a bet-fold is appropriate on the river, though a calling is probably not a horrible mistake.

I don't think anyone has stressed the importance of raising preflop enough. The button open-limped and is probably very weak, and tons of people complete the SB with anything. Easy raise, IMO.