Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Other Poker > Omaha High
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-14-2006, 01:48 PM
ITILTEZ ITILTEZ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: amerika
Posts: 370
Default 2550

This is one of the very few hands where I have been unsure about the action. Any thoughts about how I played the hand?

Niterider84 isint good in my opinnion, but seems to be agresisve enough to reraise hands other then AAxx from blinds too. Also he isint terrible.
Few rounds ago I opened button for $175 he repotted to $575 from SB BB folded and I called. Flop was 843r he potted it and I raised for a pot and he folded.

POKERSTARS GAME #6628014122: OMAHA POT LIMIT ($25/$50) - 2006/10/14 - 04:42:40 (ET)
Table 'Mebsuta IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Darwinism ($5302 in chips)
Seat 3: ITILTEZ ($7316.50 in chips)
Seat 9: niterider84 ($4694.50 in chips)
ITILTEZ: posts small blind $25
niterider84: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ITILTEZ [9c 6d 8s Th]
Darwinism: raises $100 to $150
ITILTEZ: calls $125
niterider84: raises $450 to $600
Darwinism: calls $450
ITILTEZ: calls $450
*** FLOP *** [9s 7s Ah]
ITILTEZ: checks
niterider84: bets $1799
Darwinism: folds
ITILTEZ: raises $4917.50 to $6716.50 and is all-in
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-14-2006, 02:17 PM
blopp blopp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: coaching plo/nlhe
Posts: 691
Default Re: 2550

Without flushdraw there its perfect. Also its a reraised pot so hero has bigger equity. But a big part of villians range is set, top two and nfldraw, neither would obvs fold. (I wonder whats ours equity vs 30% set 30% nfldraw 30% top two 10% bluff, obs villian could middle wrap that hit even with spades too..)

I dont think I get away, but is a hard spot. Good hand.

- B
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-15-2006, 12:54 AM
TxRedMan TxRedMan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ty [censored] Cobb
Posts: 4,865
Default Re: 2550

this is bad.

really bad.

w/o pt #'s and reads i assume this player has to have a clue, for discussion sake. of course he folds a lot of hands he can make that preflop raise with, but most of the time that raise is AAxx, and if he's suited in spades (worst case scenario) you're [censored].

i dont like preflop and i dont like the flop.

on the flop this play is fine on a three suit board.

this is suicide imo.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-15-2006, 01:00 AM
blopp blopp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: coaching plo/nlhe
Posts: 691
Default Re: 2550

[ QUOTE ]

i dont like preflop and i dont like the flop.


[/ QUOTE ]

Preflop is so standard.

- B
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-15-2006, 02:08 AM
CrushinFelt CrushinFelt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,071
Default Re: 2550

In the long run, if you consistently do this against an AAxx your equity plummets if you disregard the suited board. The amount of hurt you are in if he has NFD crushes your long-run equity in these situations. I wouldn't make a habit of this play.

If the stacks were deeper I wouldn't hate a c/c, not that I'd like it a ton either (he'd have to be more than 2x as deep as he is now). But if you c/c here he is riding it to the river even if you were able to show him a straight on the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-15-2006, 06:27 AM
ITILTEZ ITILTEZ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: amerika
Posts: 370
Default Re: 2550

[ QUOTE ]
this is bad.

really bad.

w/o pt #'s and reads i assume this player has to have a clue, for discussion sake. of course he folds a lot of hands he can make that preflop raise with, but most of the time that raise is AAxx, and if he's suited in spades (worst case scenario) you're [censored].

i dont like preflop and i dont like the flop.

on the flop this play is fine on a three suit board.

this is suicide imo.

[/ QUOTE ]

I sort of agree with you, but give me a better line.

Oh and preflop is pretty standard. Reraise after darwins open is sometimes good, but folding wasnt an option.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-15-2006, 08:57 AM
forssell forssell is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 40
Default Re: 2550

You are coinflippin against a bare set and 0.3 against the worst case scenario, why would you consider other lines against this villain? Iīve only played 2k but would imagine there isnt a player in a 3-handed 5k game this isnīt an easy push against. Expect him to call and coinflip it out but thems the breaks.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-15-2006, 09:05 AM
RoundTower RoundTower is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: pushing YOU off the second nuts
Posts: 4,035
Default Re: 2550

[ QUOTE ]
You are coinflippin against a bare set and 0.3 against the worst case scenario, why would you consider other lines against this villain? Iīve only played 2k but would imagine there isnt a player in a 3-handed 5k game this isnīt an easy push against. Expect him to call and coinflip it out but thems the breaks.

[/ QUOTE ]
If you are really 0.3 against set + spades this is standard, I thought you would be in worse shape and I couldn't really think of a good line.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-15-2006, 11:12 AM
KingDan KingDan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Trusting my PRISTINE reads
Posts: 3,571
Default Re: 2550

I don't think he would be cbetting here intending to fold all that often, however he doesn't need to.

You're risking 4k to win 6k, and i think if called every time you prolly lose 600 or so (assuming maybe 34% equity which may be pessimistic )

If he folds this ever, you are making money. I think you can stick in and hope its not a combo hand.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-15-2006, 12:18 PM
CrushinFelt CrushinFelt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,071
Default Re: 2550

So why do I see Darwinism playing at 2/4 when he's playing at stakes like these? I remember seeing him on PP and I saw him at 2/4 PLO on Stars last night.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.