Wiffed flop, short stack pushes. Now what?

Dr. Moreau · #1 10-12-2006, 04:09 PM

I made a standard raise, not even considering I would be up against the short stack at our table.

I wiff the flop, but the short stack pushes his remaining chips. Do I fold or call and pray I hit a Ace? Can I get away?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t1730)
MP2 (t2758)
CO (t7435)
Button (t4500)
SB (t7975)
BB (Villain) (t1083)
UTG (t2410)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t600, 4 folds, BB (Villain) calls t400.

Flop: (t1300) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain bets t483 (All-In), Hero ???.

nath · #2 10-12-2006, 04:13 PM

getting almost 4.5:1 I call, your four live outs and the possibility of seven (or even ten) make this playable

SuperUberBob · #3 10-12-2006, 04:14 PM

Bad preflop play. Should have raised all-in preflop instead of making a normal raise.

As played, you have to call. Villain is also committed so villain might not have much either. Probably have seven outs.

Dr. Moreau · #4 10-12-2006, 04:21 PM

I should have pushed because I was under 10 BB?

HamJam · #5 10-12-2006, 04:22 PM

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getting almost 4.5:1 I call, your four live outs and the possibility of seven (or even ten) make this playable

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hero is getting 3.7:1

i still would call though

edit: yes definite push preflop

SuperUberBob · #6 10-12-2006, 04:23 PM

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I should have pushed because I was under 10 BB?

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Correct.

seke2 · #7 10-12-2006, 04:24 PM

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I should have pushed because I was under 10 BB?

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Yeah. This is a preflop push and its not close.

I think you have to call the flop now.

nath · #8 10-12-2006, 04:24 PM

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getting almost 4.5:1 I call, your four live outs and the possibility of seven (or even ten) make this playable

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hero is getting 3.7:1

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yeah i'm not the most mathematical poster

CityFan · #9 10-12-2006, 07:11 PM

Push pre-flop. Since you didn't, call the flop. You have seven outs (3xA, 4xT) and two cards to hit them = approx 30% equity.

Ok, discount a bit for the times he has AK/AQ, but this is an easy call.

Now let's see what everyone else said...

patchdiaz · #10 10-12-2006, 07:14 PM

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Bad preflop play. Should have raised all-in preflop instead of making a normal raise.

As played, you have to call. Villain is also committed so villain might not have much either. Probably have seven outs.

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