20+2 A8 button ITM and questions on ITM play

[Nonchalant]

Should i be pushing this insted of raising? i was probubly going to fold to the BB if he pushed. The SB is a bad player and could be doing this with 22+ (which is how he got his chips, two people went all in and he called with 22 the flop came AA2) A2+ probubly KJ+ maybe more.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t4645)
SB (t3605)
BB (t5250)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t1000</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t3580 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero calls

How do you guys play hands in this position? Fold/Push only? Limp bad aces or hands like KJs, low pkts? Ever rais less than all in? Double blinds ever?

[Cowy]

If your gonna raise like that I think you have to fold to a reraise. You might as well have pushed if you were going to call the reraise.

[Nonchalant]

i was gonna call the SB but not the BB who is a much better player

[DaN_05]

Yeah just push.

[Bigwig]

You're right around the gray area with a hand like A8 to overpush (&gt;10BB) from the button. The answer is: Pushing is fine. So is raising to 1000. I think you have to call the SB. You might be able to find a fold if the BB comes over the top. Definitely can find a fold if both go all-in. If you fold after a 1000 chip raise here, you're not out of it yet. Especially with how bad these guys play ITM.

[Nonchalant]

so 1000 chip raises arn't bad when the blinds are this high and stacks are about even. I use the 1000 chip rais alot when its heads up and im not to a point i have to go AI. I'll do these till my opponent has about a third of my chips then its normaly all in or nothing.

[Bigwig]

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so 1000 chip raises arn't bad when the blinds are this high and stacks are about even. I use the 1000 chip rais alot when its heads up and im not to a point i have to go AI. I'll do these till my opponent has about a third of my chips then its normaly all in or nothing.

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I use the 1000 chip raise because more isn't necessary. No other reason. As Curtains once said, "They fold enough."

I push when my stack or their stack dictates that I do. Or, in certain bubble situations when you're the biggie, of course. It has nothing to do with the size of their stack in relation to mine.

[Nonchalant]

well at stars when they have a third of your stack and the blinds are 200/400 there is 850 in the pot and they only have like 3000 to your 9000. Any rais here and you are commited.

[Bigwig]

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well at stars when they have a third of your stack and the blinds are 200/400 there is 850 in the pot and they only have like 3000 to your 9000. Any rais here and you are commited.

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Okay.

[Pudge714]

Push or raise is fine. However when you raise you should be thinking about whether or not to call a push before the raise not after.