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10-10-2006, 10:22 AM
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PPs from EP with an M of 10
What's the best way to play low and medium pairs from EP, with other stacks with M 5-30 at the table, and I have an M of 10.
I guess I fold the smaller pairs. But what about 88-TT? Are they playable? Is limping or raising better? The problem is if I get reraised, it's hard to fold, since the initial raise has cost me a lot of chips already. 
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#2
10-10-2006, 11:45 AM
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Re: PPs from EP with an M of 10
with an M of 10 you need to move. You cant fold a mid pair or better here.
Either:- Make a standard 3BB raise with the intention of calling if you are reraised allin. If there is just a caller (or callers) asses the flop- if it is dangerous check and fold if there is a bet - you still have an M of 7. Otherwise bet hard and hope you have the best hand. or move allin right there. Personally i would move allin most times
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#3
10-10-2006, 11:48 AM
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Re: PPs from EP with an M of 10
I play fairly well when I'm down to 10 BB's or so, so for me it's a limp for set value more often then not. Fold to heavy action behind you.
Pushing 15 BB's or so with 88 from EP is NOT a good play IMO, you'll only be called by better PP's and maybe AK / AQ.
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#4
10-10-2006, 11:50 AM
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Re: PPs from EP with an M of 10
Open pushing a mid pocket pair from early position with an M of 10 is terrible.
Generally, raise or limp, and reevaluate if you get raised. If I raise from early position, I would usually fold to a reraise.
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#6
10-10-2006, 11:54 AM
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Re: PPs from EP with an M of 10
With 15 BBs in early position, we dont have implied odds to limp for a set. Limping and folding to later action with 10BBs would be horrible. IMO 88 or less is a fold with 15BBs, and 66+ is a shove with 10BBs.
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#7
10-10-2006, 11:55 AM
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Re: PPs from EP with an M of 10
22-77: generally fold except at the tightest tables. 77 is real borderline here
88-TT: Raise it up and see what happens. I sometimes make it 2.5xBB just to keep it small. If you get pushed around PF, then you have to reevaluate. Withour reads, consider villian's stack size and the number of players left to act. If you see a flop, well, that's where you get to test your true poker skills.
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#8
10-10-2006, 11:56 AM
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Re: PPs from EP with an M of 10
Betgo what does raising a mid PP with an M of 10 get for you if your folding to a reraise...I think that is horrible. Its ok to fold hands 44-88 in early position which I feel is the best choice if you are raising to plan on folding.
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#9
10-10-2006, 11:58 AM
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Re: PPs from EP with an M of 10
[ QUOTE ]
With 15 BBs in early position, we dont have implied odds to limp for a set. Limping and folding to later action with 10BBs would be horrible. IMO 88 or less is a fold with 15BBs, and 66+ is a shove with 10BBs. [/ QUOTE ] M of 10 is 15xBBs with no ante. 20xBB with a typical online ante, and 30xBB with a typical live ante. If you are limping, you are not limping strictly playing for a set. You are limping with the option to limpreraise. You are also not autofolding the flop if you don't make a set.
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#10
10-10-2006, 12:02 PM
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Re: PPs from EP with an M of 10
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] With 15 BBs in early position, we dont have implied odds to limp for a set. Limping and folding to later action with 10BBs would be horrible. IMO 88 or less is a fold with 15BBs, and 66+ is a shove with 10BBs. [/ QUOTE ] M of 10 is 15xBBs with no ante. 20xBB with a typical online ante, and 30xBB with a typical live ante. If you are limping, you are not limping strictly playing for a set. You are limping with the option to limpreraise. You are also not autofolding the flop if you don't make a set. [/ QUOTE ] Previous poster was referring to BBs....not OP. Claimed he would limp in early position with 10BBs.
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