Worst Domination

Red_Diamond · #1 10-10-2006, 05:42 AM

I think the worst domination that comes to mind, is a case like K2o vs KK. You're what, 5.4 equity, or close to around that. But one thing I do not remember reading in literature, is stuff like this nature. Just out of curiosity, is there a worse possible starting scenario (preflop)heads-up you could find yourself in?

TheJackyl · #2 10-10-2006, 07:52 AM

You are correct, mathematically KK vs K2o (where the 2 shares suit with one of the guy with KK's Kings)Its something like a 95/5 favorite

Dogballs88 · #3 10-10-2006, 01:29 PM

Not really - you're basically 9-1 against regardless. I suppose you are A LITTLE better off if you're in the middle range (i.e. 88 vs. 87) due to the increased straight possibilities, but this is a nightmare scneario in any case.

Trent · #4 10-12-2006, 05:09 AM

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 94.9237 % 94.16% 00.76% { KdKh }
Hand 2: 05.0763 % 04.31% 00.76% { Ks2h }

PantsOnFire · #5 10-12-2006, 12:08 PM

Aren't there several that are the same as this?

AA vs A6o to A9o
KK vs K2o to K8o
QQ vs Q2o to Q7o
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88 vs 82o to 83o
77 vs 72o

lippy · #6 10-12-2006, 06:18 PM

KK vs K2 is more of a domination than KK vs Kx

K2 needs 3456 for a straight, K6 (or something) can have 2345, 3457, 4578, etc.

As for the others, you have a higher possibility of a chop.

Colombo · #7 10-12-2006, 07:02 PM

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 96.5860 % 96.40% 00.19% { AcAd }
Hand 2: 00.6008 % 00.01% 00.59% { 2c2d }
Hand 3: 02.8132 % 02.22% 00.59% { 2h2s }

only way for 2c2d to win is to catch a straight flush, 23456

MrMxyztplk · #8 10-12-2006, 08:37 PM

Try TT vs. 22 vs. 22 vs. 33 vs. 33 vs. 44 vs. 44 vs. 55 vs. 55. I bet the Tens are probably close to 96.5% or something.

MrMxyztplk · #9 10-12-2006, 08:39 PM

I just poker stoved it: 96.4833%.

2461Badugi · #10 10-13-2006, 01:52 AM

If you're going to go that far, why stop?

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2127179
pokenum -mc 500000 -o as ah ks kh - 2s 2h 2c 2d
Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ks Ah Kh 500000 100.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 1.000
2s 2c 2d 2h 0 0.00 500000 100.00 0 0.00 0.000