AK gone wrong

[JJNJustin]

Table is mixed 5-10 at MCC. Some unknowns. Getting more aggressive as table has just fulled up or 9 people.

1) Two unknown players limp. I raise A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Four players call my raise. The limpers call. The flop is:
A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. The limpers check. I bet. Two players call, one player raises, one of the limpers call, I re-raise. call, call, raiser caps it, call, call. 5 players to the turn. The turn is a 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. We all check to the raiser who bets, 1 call, 1 fold, I call, two folds. River 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Check, I check, raiser bets, call, I call.

Results: <font color="white"> Raiser shows AhQh </font>

2) Loose but good player raises UTG. One player calls. I reraise with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Bad player behind me caps it. UTG calls, other player calls. Flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG checks. Caller checks. I bet. Bad player just calls. UTG calls. Caller folds. Turn is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG bets, I raise, bad player folds, UTG re-raises, I call. River is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG bets, I call.

Results: <font color="white">UTG has KdKh </font>

-J

[Niediam]

Hand 1: Looks to be a fair chance you are benind to AQ but you need to raise the turn to protect your hand. The pot is gigantic so hopefully players with 3-4 outs will decent they are drawing dead and fold.

Hand 2: Perfect

[JJH3984]

I think you played both of these hands well.

[bungyrocks]

both hands look fine to me. Its important not to become results oriented and make good poker decisions, which you did in this case. nh.

[jba]

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Hand 1: Looks to be a fair chance you are benind to AQ but you need to raise the turn to protect your hand. The pot is gigantic so hopefully players with 3-4 outs will decent they are drawing dead and fold.

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we are too big of a dog here - a check raise is burning money. the only other line here is to donk the turn if the flop capper is capable of playing a flush draw that fast.

hand 2 I don't like the turn raise. you have the nut king, but UTG is showing a lot of strength donking into the guy that donked into the preflop capper on a K high flop (lots of donking going on here). this is a ton of strength. the preflop capper isn't folding AA, and he isn't calling two cold with TT-QQ, but he may overcall. try to get him to. you're much better off getting two bets a piece from two players than just UTG.

[JJNJustin]

I normally would play the hand like you said exactly for the reasons you stated. However, in this case, the pre-flop capper was horrible and the UTG was a bit loose. I had a sense that the capper had a small chance to river me with two pair or something. Also, the UTG thinks that I am a total rock, and I thought if I raised him on the turn he would even give me credit for three kings. Since a K was on board and I had a K in my hand, I thought this was so unlikely that he actually had KK. UTG was loose and playing at lower stakes than he normally would play at and could have a lot of hands. He could be betting A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], KQd, KJd. I thought in this case a raise would be a better play, to knock out the one pair draw and to get checked to on the river if a diamond or another goofy card fell. Unfortunately, UTG had KK and I my play blew up in my face. I should have folded to his 3-bet, but was getting 6-1 on the call-down, and thought he either now had KKK or probably I was still good. Since KKK was so unlikely, I called him down.

-J

[Niediam]

Your advice goes very much against what TOP and SSH say to do in big pots...