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10-09-2006, 09:53 PM
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Proving poker is a skill-game the psychology way
Take 600 people (or whatever number) who don't know anything about poker except the rules and have half of them be the control. Then take the other half and coach them for a month. Then enter them into a large online tourney and record the results for each of them. Compile results and average out things (to reduce luck skewing results) and produce results. Someone get on it.
This is actually kind of retarded but it's a way to prove it. All I'm saying is why haven't we come up with something to show the nation. 
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10-09-2006, 10:48 PM
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Re: Proving poker is a skill-game the psychology way
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[ QUOTE ] The nation doesn't care. [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps but they can't deny proof. [/ QUOTE ] Proof and facts mean far less than beliefs and rhetoric, at least in this government. Look at the evolution/creationist "debate". But I like your idea. Actually more "the scientific way" rather than "the psychology way." This actually seems like an interesting study to do, and the result would be useful in demonstrating poker as a game of skill.
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10-09-2006, 11:36 PM
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Re: Proving poker is a skill-game the psychology way
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average out things (to reduce luck skewing results) [/ QUOTE ] Wait, do you mean to compensate for suckouts, etc? If poker is a game of skill, doesn't this HURT our argument? We need to show that REGARDLESS of luck, the skillful win in poker, thus making it a valid game in which to compete and enhance skills--money simply being a necessary component in the game's structure.
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10-10-2006, 12:52 PM
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Re: Proving poker is a skill-game the psychology way
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[ QUOTE ] average out things (to reduce luck skewing results) [/ QUOTE ] Wait, do you mean to compensate for suckouts, etc? If poker is a game of skill, doesn't this HURT our argument? We need to show that REGARDLESS of luck, the skillful win in poker, thus making it a valid game in which to compete and enhance skills--money simply being a necessary component in the game's structure. [/ QUOTE ] It doesn't hurt the argument at all. There is no contradiction in recognizing that luck prevails short-term but skill prevails long-term. It's just the way it is.
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10-10-2006, 01:12 PM
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Re: Proving poker is a skill-game the psychology way
I agree with the posters that said that most people won't care about such an experiment. I still think it might be interesting, though.
I'd do it slightly differently: I'd have them play a large number of hands ring style (maybe some limit and some no-limit). There's generally a greater element of chance in tournaments than in ring games, so this might make the point even more strongly (though again, few would care).
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10-10-2006, 01:12 PM
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Re: Proving poker is a skill-game the psychology way
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] average out things (to reduce luck skewing results) [/ QUOTE ] Wait, do you mean to compensate for suckouts, etc? If poker is a game of skill, doesn't this HURT our argument? We need to show that REGARDLESS of luck, the skillful win in poker, thus making it a valid game in which to compete and enhance skills--money simply being a necessary component in the game's structure. [/ QUOTE ] It doesn't hurt the argument at all. There is no contradiction in recognizing that luck prevails short-term but skill prevails long-term. It's just the way it is. [/ QUOTE ] I agree this would be nice but the challange won't end when you prove skill wins. It will then turn into the skilled fleecing money from those who have no idea it is a skill game. To the people who pushed this bill that is the point. I am not refering to Frist. To these people it doesn't matter if it is a company or a person who studied the game. Gambling is ruining the lives of too many people and the winners like us are a part of the ruining. Our opinion won't matter.
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