200NL, folding KK :(

smellmuth · #1 10-09-2006, 12:16 PM

villain is nittish, 15-9-1.0 through 150 hands. this is a set righr?

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Button ($445.90)
Hero ($272)
BB ($71.20)
UTG ($191)
MP ($200)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, UTG calls $14.

Flop: ($46) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $26, UTG calls $26.

Turn: ($98) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $44, UTG raises to $143, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $285

74o_Clownsuit · #2 10-09-2006, 12:19 PM

Dude please raise more preflop, and bet more on the flop and turn.

As played this is a good fold.

2Paul2 · #3 10-09-2006, 12:30 PM

Raie more pf esp. as you are oop.

I would check the turn. I don't think he'll call a bet there w/ any worse hands. He'll certainly bet some for you though.

As played fold is ok but I after showing that much weakness I'm not 100% happy about it.

Paul

74o_Clownsuit · #4 10-09-2006, 12:36 PM

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Raie more pf esp. as you are oop.

I would check the turn. I don't think he'll call a bet there w/ any worse hands. He'll certainly bet some for you though.

As played fold is ok but I after showing that much weakness I'm not 100% happy about it.

Paul

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Against a tight villian with a TA of only 1 I think c/c the turn is bad most of the time in this situation. I'd much rather b/f. Do you really see this type of villian fire a second best hand into us? No, he's likely to check behind and hit his kicker or something. lol [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

EDIT: Given the stack sizes and the fact that this pot was RERAISED, I can see merit for checking the turn and not over-bloating the pot. However, if the pot was just straight raised by Hero, I think c/c is still bad.

jakeduke · #5 10-09-2006, 03:31 PM

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I would check the turn. I don't think he'll call a bet there w/ any worse hands. He'll certainly bet some for you though.

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Paul,

If you c/c turn, what's your river plan?

74o_Clownsuit · #6 10-09-2006, 03:57 PM

The pot is probably ridic. huge but I think it's a c/f river.

jakeduke · #7 10-09-2006, 04:14 PM

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The pot is probably ridic. huge but I think it's a c/f river.

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So we call the turn because there are some hands he could be betting with that we're ahead of. We can't call twice, however, because this particular villain's range for betting both the turn and the river has us crushed. Right?

MatthewRyan · #8 10-09-2006, 04:18 PM

I like the way you played it

74o_Clownsuit · #9 10-09-2006, 04:33 PM

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The pot is probably ridic. huge but I think it's a c/f river.

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So we call the turn because there are some hands he could be betting with that we're ahead of. We can't call twice, however, because this particular villain's range for betting both the turn and the river has us crushed. Right?

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I'm not too sure, but then again, I don't advocate c/c'ing the turn against that villian anyway. B/f all day baby.

thejoe1989 · #10 10-09-2006, 04:47 PM

If you are playing a true nit here like it seems what value do you get from betting the turn? seems like a complete bluff in the wrong spot.