2 pair to all in raise

squidladder · #1 10-09-2006, 09:31 AM

Villain is 86/80/10
Does anyone think he will push with A10 or is this a set or str8.
I just found it hard to put him on anything because with his stats he could be playing just about anything.
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.75, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.75, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.5, UTG calls, SB folds.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.7, UTG raises all-in $24.28, Hero ???????????????

ticks · #2 10-09-2006, 09:39 AM

Villains stats indicate he is not only loose,
but also WILDLY aggressive.
This should lean you towards a call.

But aggression comes in various shapes and forms.
Have you seen him make big bets like this before?
Or is it just lots of minbets?

akkahai · #3 10-09-2006, 09:43 AM

Have you seen his plays before this, or do you just have the stats? Stats show he is crazy & aggressive, but maybe he has not been doing crazy all ins on the river like this.

It is a little scary that he checks flop and calls the turn, this could very well be a slowplayed straight or set, but I think I would call because we can beat just about anything else [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

squidladder · #4 10-09-2006, 09:44 AM

He has not pushed all in before .
He seems to like playing hard for pots which seem to be dead money.

Gondor · #5 10-09-2006, 09:45 AM

I call and hope he doesn't have a set. I can't see him with a straight.

silentj · #6 10-09-2006, 10:39 AM

I agree that a maniac smoothcalling a strong turn lead then waking up on the river is scary. I don't think calling such a ridiculous overbet with the 8th nuts after showing strength on two streets is a great move, either. I'd be more inclined to call had he raised the turn rather than called it. Could have been the most slowplayed AA evah, but your hand is probably no good.

Murd0c · #7 10-09-2006, 10:56 AM

I think there is a strong possibility he has a big PP since he didn't raise preflop and virtually every hand he's played he's raised preflop (only times I'm assuming he doesn't raise is if in SB, BB, or facing raise). Either that or he's got some super garbage like 42,62,T2. If he's as aggressive as his stats indicate I think he'd be betting an OESD with 53. Therefore I think you're ahead most of the time. Only hand I can see u losing to is 22.

testaaja · #8 10-09-2006, 11:07 AM

I wouldn't go broke in this SMALL pot. I'd wait for a better hand as he can have 53, 57, 79, I wouldn't be surprised if he has 22. He is probably raising 66+ pf.. I fold and wait for a better spot to take his money.

delta k · #9 10-09-2006, 11:30 AM

to those saying wait for a better spot we have first and third pair versus a nutso...i'm convinced it doesn't get much better.

Bonesy · #10 10-09-2006, 11:40 AM

I think trying to put villain on a hand here is pointless. Obviously any two is his hand. Is this the garden variety maniac who will go all in on the river with an over pair or even top pair? Or is he the somewhat thinking maniac who tries to stack people with nuts hands? Personally if I haven't seen villain show down one of these river all ins, I'm folding. I'm assuming villain is just not completely nuts. If he isn't, he knows you have a pair at least and very likely TP. Well he certainly can beat that but is it an overpair or a worse two pair? Who knows? I think you can set this guy up later with a better hand.