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Old 10-09-2006, 06:28 AM
ryguy2fly ryguy2fly is offline
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Default tough situation, probably standard but i\'d like feedback

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t102248)
UTG (t15555)
Hero (t45533)
MP1 (t14491)
MP2 (t10059)
CO (t41890)
Button (t31787)
SB (t20125)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t15555</font>,

hes a pretty tight player, i have him at 18/12 over 50ish hands, but hes pushed the 2 previous hands. Is there any room for a call here for 1/3 of my stack? Twice hes been massive overbet pushes with others in the pot, and hes had the goods both times.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: tough situation, probably standard but i\'d like feedback

No way you call here. YOu have a read that he's tight and that he's showed down the goods a lot of times. How can you possibly call with those reads? He went all in UTG, so obviously is pretty strong. Fold without a thought here.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:47 AM
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No way you call here. YOu have a read that he's tight and that he's showed down the goods a lot of times. How can you possibly call with those reads? He went all in UTG, so obviously is pretty strong. Fold without a thought here.

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All of which is true. Even more important is your position. If you want to play, you must raise to isolate the pusher. Otherwise, the BS in BB will have the odds to call and close the action with all sorts of hands - then you'll be in a dry side pot against a bigger stack. Also BB may just squeeze you out here.

Fold.
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Old 10-09-2006, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: tough situation, probably standard but i\'d like feedback

What registar said. It might not be a bad call with your read if you were in the BB closing the action, but with 6 people left to act its a standard fold.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: tough situation, probably standard but i\'d like feedback

Fold sounds like a good idea.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: tough situation, probably standard but i\'d like feedback

registrar and aditya said it perfect
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: tough situation, probably standard but i\'d like feedback

Fold and I didnt even look at the stack sizes or your info.
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: tough situation, probably standard but i\'d like feedback

UTG may well have started to push his hands, because he was getting a bit low on chips.

However, you still have time to wait for a better hand to go up against him with, if this is the case.

As you pointed out, he has shown down good hands so far.

Also as other posters have pointed out, there are still 6 players to act after you and you would not like to have other players involved in this hand with you.
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:36 PM
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If you are BB and villan is SB and no one else is in the pot, then I consider calling.

I agree with the others...
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: tough situation, probably standard but i\'d like feedback

Fold faster when UTG+1. With your reads, call from SB or BB (mebbe push from OTB to isolate).
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