To bet or not to bet the river... that is the question

[Str8Fish]

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, SB folds.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7BB


Villain is 40/1.5/1.25

[DrModern]

Check-call the river, IMO.

[Str8Fish]

you want to expand on your thought process some? Seriously, the farm gangstas need to express their thought process more before I burn down their crops.

[bozlax]

For the love of Shania, do you expect to get decent answers from this? The only "read" you've given us would seem to indicate that a bet/fold is best on this river, but unless you've got something you haven't told us that'll make an A-B-C river-value-bet against a LPP less than obvious, what's the point?

[DrModern]

Villain doesn't raise any hands on this river that you beat. He's already called you twice, quite possibly indicating either a draw (like a flush or straight draw, which both may have just hit) or some kind of made hand, possibly a better 6. However, I think you'd like to show the hand down. You don't miss value by using a check-call line because any hand that villain would check behind would most likely fold to a bet anyway.

BTW DON'T TOUCH THE CROPS OR THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES!

[Str8Fish]

boz others disagree that this is a b/f on the river. Including wookie and btspider. What are we putting him on?

[detruncate]

I'd bet/fold against more passive opponents since they will almost certainly call with more hands than they bet in this sort of situation + you can easily fold to a raise without a second thought, but vs this guy a c/c is probably better. He seems likely to bet most anything when checked to, and you don't have to worry about being pushed off the best hand by a bluff raise you can't call.

[bozlax]

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boz others disagree that this is a b/f on the river. Including wookie and btspider. What are we putting him on?

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With what you've given us, I can't speak for you (or for Wookie or bt for that matter) but I can't put him on anything. That's why I said A-B-C. On a scary board OOP you bet your weak made hands on the river to give your opponent an opportunity to fold, especially when a raise will tell you that you're beat. If your hand's stronger, but not a monster (e.g. a hand you NEED to show down), c/c is fine with me, but 3rd pair on a straighty board doesn't fit that criteria.

[CrMenace]

It's hard to imagine a hand that you beat that is calling your river net. Is A high really calling you here?

[Sushiglutton]

I c/c. Don't see many worse hands calling, nor any better folding.