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Old 10-08-2006, 07:40 AM
MortenTA MortenTA is offline
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Default trips on the river call or push

Villains first hand at table so no stats.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($30.25)
SB ($25.10)
BB ($22.19)
UTG ($5.48)
MP ($41.27)
CO ($20.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($2.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, SB calls $2.

Turn: ($6.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, SB calls $4.50.

River: ($15.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $7</font>, Hero ?
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:44 AM
Sir Winalot Sir Winalot is offline
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

Are you serious? I push river all day. You'll get called by worse kings day in day out.
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

That queen on the board concerns me - kq kj are likely tp hands calling you down to river- that river bet looks like for value.
Absent of reads or anything about villan makes this hand tricky for me.

We beat Kx except KQ - if we knew he slowplays to the river I would call the river, but as an unknown I might go with my first thought and minraise the river so he prob. pushes the rest AI.

I'm teh suck at river play wihout reads. I'm honestly not sure what to do.
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

Minus a read I would push.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

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We beat Kx except KQ

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And K5 and K8. And trips just boated up on us too. Thats what makes this hand very difficult. I think there is enough oddness about check call check call then bet on the river to just call here, I just feel a little uneasy about a push.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:17 AM
MortenTA MortenTA is offline
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

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We beat Kx except KQ

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And K5 and K8. And trips just boated up on us too. Thats what makes this hand very difficult. I think there is enough oddness about check call check call then bet on the river to just call here, I just feel a little uneasy about a push.

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This describes my thoughts when I was playing the hand very well.

In fact I found his whole line very suspicious.

Is it weak to call here because you suspect him having KQ,K5,K8 or slowplayed set here??

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Old 10-08-2006, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

I'm happier with a $14.50 gain than a $25 loss. The river bet tells me he's holding KQ or 88. I call and get ready to kiss my $ goodbye. Shorthanded to a $1 raise i'd expect he would raise QQ pre-flop so i put him KQ or 88 only.
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

absent of any reads i push. the average 25nl player is calling with any king.
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

I don't hate a call. I think this decision is much closer than most people think.
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Old 10-08-2006, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: trips on the river call or push

push it - push it goooooooooood.

KJ KT K9 K7 K6 K4 K2 are all calling.

This is a microtable and this guy is very likely an idiot.

we are worried about precisely 3 hands KQ/K8/88 and there are 7 that he will call and lose with here - this isn't close.

Hell he's probably calling with AQ as well.
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