1/2 Two hands vs Murphprodigy for STACKZ

RiverFenix · #1 10-07-2006, 03:41 PM

Everyone knows aggro TAG murph. Any other way to play them?

Hand 1 may not be as interesting.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($213)
UTG ($208.67)
Hero ($197)
Button ($217.78)
SB ($387.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($28) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $22, BB raises to $85, UTG folds, Hero calls $63.

Turn: ($198) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB calls $119 (All-In), Hero calls $103 (All-In).

River: ($420) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $420

I dont want to comment on my call vs 4bet frequency on this hand but this is never a fold PF for me against him. Feel free to disagree on that. Also, we go back and forth a decent amount in reraised pots but this is the first time I think ive ever minraised him.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($130.25)
BB ($200)
Hero ($292)
Button ($208.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, BB raises to $22, Hero calls $17.

Flop: ($49) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $40, Hero raises to $80, BB calls $136 (All-In), Hero calls $96.

Turn: ($401) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($401) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $401

2Paul2 · #2 10-07-2006, 03:50 PM

They both seem pretty zzz, although on my better days I fold flop in hand 1.

Paul

p.s. Not played w/ this guy.

sdfsdf · #3 10-07-2006, 03:54 PM

hand1: he doesn't have QQ, but he doesnt have KK or AQ either. im not sure if he leads draws or check raises with them, i dont think i could let this go though. i would push flop.

hand2: nh. if he had been reraising you a lot, you could push too.

Solid_Shooter · #4 10-07-2006, 03:56 PM

You played the hands fairly well good job. Ive never personally played with him, but from what I can see you played fairly well.

cbloom · #5 10-07-2006, 04:04 PM

Hand 1 : if you're felting you should just push the flop. That's kind of marginal though since against him I think that CR is pretty much a set or a FD and your equity against that range isn't awesome.

Tupacia · #6 10-07-2006, 04:37 PM

I agree with CBloom that 3-betting AI is the best line - he doesn't have QQ as he'd reraise with that pf, so the only hands you're behind are 44 and 66. Just calling his raise on the flop basically obligates you to call his AI on the turn, so you might as well push when you may have a sliver of fold equity.

6-Max Donk · #7 10-07-2006, 04:41 PM

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I agree with CBloom that 3-betting AI is the best line - he doesn't have QQ as he'd reraise with that pf, so the only hands you're behind are 44 and 66. Just calling his raise on the flop basically obligates you to call his AI on the turn, so you might as well push when you may have a sliver of fold equity.

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Of course he's never folding a better hand and he's only folding hands we beat. You don't really want to fold a draw.

True · #8 10-07-2006, 04:42 PM

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I agree with CBloom that 3-betting AI is the best line - he doesn't have QQ as he'd reraise with that pf, so the only hands you're behind are 44 and 66. Just calling his raise on the flop basically obligates you to call his AI on the turn, so you might as well push when you may have a sliver of fold equity.

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WTF - "fold equity"

Can you tell me why you want FE here? The reason we don't raise is because we don't want the FE that an all in brings us.

True

True · #9 10-07-2006, 04:43 PM

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I agree with CBloom that 3-betting AI is the best line - he doesn't have QQ as he'd reraise with that pf, so the only hands you're behind are 44 and 66. Just calling his raise on the flop basically obligates you to call his AI on the turn, so you might as well push when you may have a sliver of fold equity.

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Of course he's never folding a better hand and he's only folding hands we beat. You don't really want to fold a draw.

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you really do want a draw to fold... but you won't get FE against that.

True

6-Max Donk · #10 10-07-2006, 04:57 PM

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I agree with CBloom that 3-betting AI is the best line - he doesn't have QQ as he'd reraise with that pf, so the only hands you're behind are 44 and 66. Just calling his raise on the flop basically obligates you to call his AI on the turn, so you might as well push when you may have a sliver of fold equity.

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Of course he's never folding a better hand and he's only folding hands we beat. You don't really want to fold a draw.

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you really do want a draw to fold... but you won't get FE against that.

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Love your explanation why, [censored]. No wonder I never post here.