NL25 6max, -4 buyins, need some tips (did i misplayed this badly?)

MantridNinja · #1 10-07-2006, 09:36 AM

Man, i freaking hate cash games now [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img], this month i am doing very well in SnG's, but yesterday i decided to take a shot at 6max 25NL @pokerstars, and its just not working out, tried to play a typical TAG, play position, no stupid bluffs, etc..

I am not sure, maybe it was just a swing and i got really really unlucky with table/players but i dont really think so. I think i am just a ring game noob :[ Some feedback on a couple of hands would be great guys

HAND #1
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($81.65)
Hero ($24.10)
MP ($51.70)
CO ($2.80)
Button ($6.45)
SB ($51.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, SB raises to $3.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.25.

Flop: ($6.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($14.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $8.25, Hero raises to $16.5, SB raises to $24.75, Hero calls $0.35 (All-In).

River: ($56.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $56.35

^ retarded push? Didnt have any reads on this guy, but would be guessing that he is pretty tight after 20-25 hands or so

HAND #2
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($48.95)
Hero ($25.15)
Button ($11.45)
SB ($32.05)
BB ($32.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, BB folds.

Turn: ($5.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $8, UTG raises to $46.7, Hero calls $14.90 (All-In).

River: ($75.20) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $75.20

do i fold trips here?

HAND #3
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($24.75)
BB ($40.70)
UTG ($10.35)
Hero ($41.05)
CO ($36.40)
Button ($17.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($3.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $2, CO folds, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($7.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls $5.

River: ($17.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $17.35

Misplayed the turn? Should i just give it to him, or fire on the river again?

HAND #4
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($11.35)
BB ($27.25)
UTG ($8.70)
Hero ($30.45)
CO ($45.80)
Button ($6.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, CO raises to $3, Button calls $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($9.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Button raises to $3.95, Hero calls $3.95, CO calls $1.95.

Turn: ($21.20) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($21.20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: $21.20

thoughts? :O

And the last thing, is there any good books to read which can improve micro/low stackes NL ring game?

What i've read already : HOH1-3, ToP, planning to read NLHTAP, maybe there is anything else i am missing? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

nitramee · #2 10-07-2006, 09:45 AM

Not so many hands in one post OK!
1)Fold flop
2)Raise flop
3)c/f turn
4)If you reaise flop then put in a proper raise(3,5x original raise is standard)

Some people are working on the small stakes NL book, bur it will take some time.

danny8 · #3 10-07-2006, 10:26 AM

hand 1: fold the flop. all you have is missed overs, no draws, no nothing. at the very best he has AK, mor elikely he has you beaten though.

Hand2: on the flop raise to $6, bet 2/3rds on the turn, or if he bets, 3bet AI. On such a draw heavy flop, you cant afford to give him a cheap turn.

hand3:
c/f turn, you missed the flop, your c-bet got called, its time to give up now.

Hand 4: lead the flop for around $7. You likely have the best hand here, you dont want to give a free/cheap turn card. If CO reraises you i think id let this 1 go and fold.

kerplunkNL · #4 10-07-2006, 10:48 AM

Hand 1-3, see above.

Hand 4) This is a tough spot. I think bet the flop and folding to a raise is the best. If players are weak than they will call w/ flushdraws abnd str8draws often enough. But I'm no expert, maybe c/c of c/f is a better line.

the machine · #5 10-07-2006, 11:49 AM

1 is very bad. you have no draw and no pair and hes made a decnet size bet. we can fold easily here

2 raise the flop because there are lots of draws. on the turn you are only behind to another set or broadway and against broadway you have 10 outs to fill up or quad. im assuming you were set over setted here in which case it belongs in BBV because people just dont fold sets, esp at these levels let alone high stakes

3 it depends on my table image. sometimes i get crazy and triple barrel with queen high because im in position but this board isnt very draw heavy on the flop so its likely villain has a made hand. the flop texture given your position should let you know if your double barrel bluff may work. but in general i check the turn like 92.7% of the time

4 i lead out on the flop because it is really draw heavy and we need to charge draws

Bonesy · #6 10-07-2006, 12:20 PM

Hand 1) Awful. You have nothing on the flop, just fold that. Getting stacked was a total waste.

Hand 2) Must raise this flop to protect your hand. Losing to a higher set is fine but not protecting and losing to a KQ is very bad.

Hand 3) Flop bet is too small. Don't encourage him to stick around. I bet at least $2.75. Turn bet is, I don't know. I wish it was a scare card if he is holding a middle pair. I may fire again. River, I'm done most likely.

Hand 4) I agree with others that leading out on the flop was best.

Also, if you got stacked in the last two hands, you should show how you are getting it all in. Leading or calling?

allaboutmyfetti · #7 10-07-2006, 01:53 PM

grunch.

hand 1- the flop call blows

hand 2 - not raising the flop here is a crime (super drawy board and villian made a wussy bet ... not to mention you have a frickin set)

hand 3 - the turn bet is spew without a read

hand 4 - I don't get the action, did you & CO just check heck it all the way? I would probably donk the flop, as played it's not that bad I think. w at was river action?

Shaddux · #8 10-07-2006, 04:52 PM

Hand 1: Fold flop
Hand 2: Raise flop
Hand 3: Cbet more on flop; c/f turn
Hand 4: Lead flop