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10-05-2006, 11:46 AM
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TILT
Hey Guys,
Past week I've dropped about 10 Buyins, I know this is far from anything spectacular, but I've noticed that I get in some sort of downward spiral in which I start double / triple barreling when I should be checkin and checkin when I should be 3-barreling Most of the time it goes something like this: I loose 2/3 Buyins by bad luck / colddecks (you know: poker) whatever, then I start making bad plays... Now I'm not really into getting mad about bad beats or colddecks or whatever, but I'm noticing that I'm changing my play for the worse when I'm down more than lets say $ 800 (4 Buyins). Do you guys have any advice on dealing with these kind of situations? Im not bothered about takin beats, I would just like some suggestions on not changing your play when loosing, because I know this is going to happen to me alot more and worse.... thanks alot. <---IWS 
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#2
10-05-2006, 11:59 AM
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Re: TILT
[ QUOTE ]
Now I'm not really into getting mad about bad beats or colddecks or whatever, but I'm noticing that I'm changing my play for the worse when I'm down more than lets say $ 800 (4 Buyins). [/ QUOTE ] Sounds like you are getting emotionally involved. Maybe you aren't swearing at the screen or smashing keyboards, but you start chip dumping. Your best option is to either stop tilting (if you find out how to do this let me know), or stop playing when you notice things go bad. You already know your play is affected at 4 buyins, so how bout stopping when you lose 3 buyins. If it is early in the day, you can always come back after you review your play.
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#3
10-05-2006, 12:03 PM
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Re: TILT
IMWITHSTUPID,
Sorry to hear about your downswing and hope you get out of it soon. My personal mantra is to ALWAYS remind myself that, no matter how many times I get sucked-out on etc etc, that if I continue to play correctly, I will show a profit somewhere down the line. I literally repeat this to myself several times a day, and I've found it's for the better. It really allows me to continue to focus and not spew. As for short-term little spells, my rule of thumb: if I ever drop 3-buyin's worth in a session, I immediately quit and take a break for a few hours (maybe even the whole day, depending on the nature of the beats). Some people might not agree with this. If you're in a juicy game with the 85/0 superdonk on your right who happens to have 500bb, then you might not want to leave. However, I've found that even in a great game, my play greatly suffers when I'm down a few buyins. Also, it's a good idea to keep your head in reality. You may be down 4 or more buyins at 400NL for example, but you're most likely UP several thousands from your initial investment in poker, which is an amazing accomplishment. Always remind yourself that you're playing a game FOR MONEY and that if you get good enough at it, it can be a real cash cow. Sure beats standing at a cash register all day. Finally, remind yourself like you're lucky to be alive. Good luck. EDIT: BTW lol 200th post I'm an "enthusiast" now haha.
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#5
10-05-2006, 12:21 PM
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Re: TILT
Hi Hince, thanks for you reply
[ QUOTE ] Sounds like you are getting emotionally involved. [/ QUOTE ] I know, this is the biggest problem, the thing is: When i'm losing, it seems like I'm not in it to play good poker (and have fun; which is what I have when I'm winning), but to win money (fast!). I start losing feel for the game and start making bad plays... [ QUOTE ] If it is early in the day, you can always come back after you review your play. [/ QUOTE ] Most of the time, I stop playing when I lose more than 3 buyins, the problem is getting it totally out of my head. I get rushed into getting money back (which is the worst thing you could do, I know), even if its the next day. So sometimes I even take a week off or whatever, play some donkaments: which is good therapy - but bad money management. <---IWS
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#6
10-05-2006, 12:25 PM
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Re: TILT
LOL @ reminding him he's lucky to be alive. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Nh
Not everyone can deal with one bad beat after another without tilting. In fact very few can, I'm not one of those who can. I take the consequenses of that and leave after losing 3 buy ins no matter what. I could be at a table full of Mike Matusows and I'd still leave. If I always played in a perfect mental condition that would likely cost me some money, but I don't so I believe I'm better of taking the consequenses.
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#7
10-05-2006, 12:28 PM
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Re: TILT
[ QUOTE ]
My personal mantra is to ALWAYS remind myself that, no matter how many times I get sucked-out on etc etc, that if I continue to play correctly, I will show a profit somewhere down the line. [/ QUOTE ] I know what you mean and I have to say that I'm not really influenced that much by loosing a pot in which I played correctly. The problem is when I see that I made a mistake and cost myself money: this is when I start losing it a bit. So the problem is not really getting over bad beats or cold decks. Its more about getting over my own stupidity. ->Anyone recognize this? [ QUOTE ] Finally, remind yourself like you're lucky to be alive. Good luck. [/ QUOTE ] This is GOLD...tx
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#10
10-05-2006, 12:35 PM
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Re: TILT
The best way to control this type of situation is not to change your play at all. At all times you want to make the decision that maximizes your overall expectation, when you are down its sometimes hard to see poker as a game of making correct decisions. It is crucial at this point to minimize your losses. Lets say you lose $800 That is much better then $1200, at the time it wont feel this way in fact the extra $400 will seem like nothing. We all know though this is not the case that extra $400 is losing 50% extra. In conclusion just make the best possible decisions you can, losing is a part of the game we must all except. As long as you always make quality decisions you will win in the long run.
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