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Old 10-05-2006, 12:24 AM
sean1 sean1 is offline
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Default Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

Why is the bill only 85-90 on tradesports?

It should be 99-100, shouldn't it?

I am telling you something is very odd.

The republicans passed their port security bill and they had a great victory in passing anti gaming regulation that they have been trying to pass for 10 years. Yet in 3 days since the Republicans put every effort in the world to get this bill through, the Republican president has not signed it. Wouldn't one think he would sign it at first opportunity so the Republican religious wing could claim a great victory and start campaigning.

Maybe this means nothing, but to me, it is bizarre. Even if he plans to sign it at the very least, he and his party is waiting and observing public opinion.

Every major news source has done stories on this and every poll has shown 80-90% of people think this law is [censored].

You can be reasonably sure the WTO, Europe, and countries like Antigua have contacted the white house.

And there is always the slim chance that with the how long is your dick man running the front page news, the Republicans don't want to piss anyone else off.

Remember Frist is a dick. Frist is crazy. Frist thought everyone in the world hates gambling and would vote for him if this got through.

There are some very bright Republicans. They are not all morons. They know both the senate and house are going to be tightly contested and the presidency will be as well in 2 years. Trust me some of these advisors read these boards. They know right now, every ounce of the media is laughing at them. They NOW know that millions upon millions of Americans believe gambling should not be outlawed. Many who don't care about gambling still don't like the idea that banks will be monitoring their transactions. And finally, the whole world is now aware of how ass backwards Frist acted.

I don't think President Bush will send the bill back to congress, but I think there is a chance he is does so or waits till after elections to sign it. If he sent it back and demanded this personal rights issue is removed, he would gain a lot after all the liberties he and his party have eliminated. I can't believe Bush (Who gambles on oil all the time) gives a [censored] about gambling. Don't be stunned if he doesn't sign.

If you have the energy - one more call. Let's get this guy all day long tomorrow.

GOP Chairman Ken Mehlman

If you call him, point out that Millions of gamblers will be voting democrat if Bush signs this.

If he does not believe you, point him to therx, eog, mw, twoplustwo, etc.

It can never hurt.


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A little about this guy:

Ken Mehlman has served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee since January 2005. When elected, he presented four goals for his term as Chairman: Enact and articulate our reform agenda; Deepen and broaden the GOP so we’re growing our party; Work to elect the best candidates in 2005, 2006 and 2008; and, Institutionalize the grassroots focus.
Before his election as Chairman, Mehlman served as campaign manager for Bush-Cheney ’04, where Michael Barone called him “the structural engineer who turned the plans into reality.” Mehlman served from 2001 to 2003 as White House Political Director. Charlie Cook said that under Mehlman’s watch, “the White House political office has reached the greatest prominence in this administration that it's ever had.”
Mehlman was National Field Director for Bush-Cheney 2000, where he worked with the campaign leadership in all fifty states and the Republican National Committee to execute winning political plans and mobilize strong grassroots.
Before joining President Bush, Mehlman was Congresswoman Kay Granger’s (TX-12) Chief of Staff and Congressman Lamar Smith’s (TX-21) Legislative Director. He practiced environmental law in Washington and assisted campaigns in Massachusetts, Ohio, Virginia, Texas, and Georgia, as well as the 1992 and 1996 Presidential campaigns.
Mehlman is a graduate of Harvard Law School and received his undergraduate degree from Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He is a native of Baltimore, Maryland.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

LOL. The White House is just waiting for a good time to sign the legislation to get a positive story (the port security part; the online gambling part is largely irrelvant and will get at most passing mention) into the news.

Signing the bill now would just see it get drowned out by the Foley story.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

Doesn't the bill have to be signed within 10 days or it is considered a pocket veto and sent back to congress, in which case if congress is not in session to redo the bill then it is considered veto'd?

LOL, Im taking a freshman Government class this semester, can you tell? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

10 days and it becomes law without the president's signature. 10 days does not count Sundays.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

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10 days and it becomes law without the president's signature. 10 days does not count Sundays.

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ummm, what?
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

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10 days and it becomes law without the president's signature. 10 days does not count Sundays.

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ummm, what?

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Congress is in session so if the Pres. does not sign the bill within 10 days not including Sundays then it automatically becomes law.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

It's called the constitution. Check it out. And what the conditions for a vest pocket veto actually are (congress has to be in adjournment and not recess as they are now).
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

Wow. That just seems wrong.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

Here's the text I got confused on in my text book. The bolded print I didn't know if that within ten days ment before the bill was passed by congress or after or if it was ten days either way. I said its a freshman government class [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


To veto a bill passed by the Congress, the president sends to Congress a veto message specifying reasons for not signing it. If the president takes no action tor ten days (excluding Sundays) after a bill has been passed by Congress, the bill becomes law without the president's signature. However, if Congress has adjourned within ten days of passing a bill and the president has not signed it, then the bill doesn not become law, this outcome is called a pocket veto.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: Why hasn\'t George signed this yet. One more phone call.

Sean1,

go back to start and try again.
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