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Old 10-04-2006, 02:41 PM
zPro zPro is offline
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Default Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t3575)
Hero (t1000)
MP1 (t635)
MP2 (t1735)
MP3 (t1145)
CO (t1245)
Button (t1610)
SB (t765)
BB (t1790)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1000 (All-in)</font>,

Can someone recommend a pushing range for this spot?
My current range: 99+, KQs+ (fold AJos)
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Old 10-04-2006, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

I'd probably be shoving 77+ AJo+ I s'pose. KQs I'd fold, FWIW.
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

Probably 88+, AQ+ for me, here.
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

You get called enough by crappy aces to make AJ a push but KQ an easy, easy fold. Pushing KQ into that many bad players is a leak.
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Old 10-05-2006, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

In what position would you push KQs?
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

So every play OP should do is push at this point or am I reading this wrong. Or are you saying because of him being in early position it's only a push or fold?
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

He has like 7xBB, so yeah raising like 3xBB is pretty gay. Just push. Generally once you have around 10xBB just push or fold.

Also, I'd probably be shoving KQs in CO and later I guess... (given Hero's stack size)
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:52 PM
RobBizzle RobBizzle is offline
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

Thanks DaN I never really knew when you got to the point where you should just push or fold. That helps a lot.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

Basically, any time when really a PF raise and a decent size (i.e. half pot) cont bet would commit you to the pot. Say you have AKo in MP with 1400 chips at a 75/150 blind level. You raise to say t400, and BTN who covers you calls. All else fold. Pot is t1025. Flop is J97 all diamonds, you have no diamond. You have t1000 chips left, WTF do you do? You've often just lost like 1/3 of your chips. So save yourself this kinda situation, and just push all-in. You'll be suprised the calls you get.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:42 PM
DonkdHound DonkdHound is offline
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Default Re: Stars (T$6.50) EP push, full table

Best case Scenario for you is that their uber tight and at best its +0.3 for a 6.50 and this stage in the proceedings.

Look to shove as your position approves, thats what really sucks here not so much your hand, which isn't exactly to shiit hot either, but yeah, way too many people and issues here. fwiw I never push this here.

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