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09-29-2006, 05:59 PM
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3/6 JJ in position after cap KTx-flop
limit holdem ring game
$3/6 9 players Hero is on the button with JJ Preflop:UTG raises, all fold, Hero 3-bets, 2folds, UTG caps, Hero calls. Flop: K T 6 (2 players, 9 1/3 SBs) UTG bets, hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] tight table (flop seen rate 25%). villain is unremarkable maybe on the tighter side. i dont expect him to cap 99 or AQ. so im chopping at best. easy fold? im just curious. i seem to lack sharpness in situations like this. 
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#2
09-29-2006, 06:07 PM
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Re: 3/6 JJ in position after cap KTx-flop
As you say yourself:
What can he have? 1010+, AQs+ maby? capping a threebet with 1010 or AQs would be only if he is tricky. (Could cap with some more PP if he is tricky) I should fold (or maby not because of my raise-reflex but I would regreat that I did not fold afterwards)
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#3
09-29-2006, 06:24 PM
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Re: 3/6 JJ in position after cap KTx-flop
I really don't see the point in continuing here, especially if you have serious doubts that he would cap with AQs (very few players would here). He's not folding AK/QQ at any point in this hand (maybe QQ if you raise the flop & an ace shows on the turn, but are you betting then?), and your own hand is obvious enough that you're not going to get near enough in implied odds if you turn a J...or else you're going to get taken to town by KK. So yeah, I think we can fold for 1 bet here.
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#4
09-29-2006, 06:37 PM
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Re: 3/6 JJ in position after cap KTx-flop
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villain is unremarkable maybe on the tighter side. i dont expect him to cap 99 or AQ. [/ QUOTE ] You pretty much answered your own question there. Against this guy's capping range, you are way behind, and don't have the pot equity to call down. It sucks, but it happens! On to the next hand! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#5
09-30-2006, 05:03 AM
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Re: 3/6 JJ in position after cap KTx-flop
thanks for your answers.
since half a year i play shorthanded and would never muck JJ b/c this guys could be retardo. but with all the longhanded nits i became a call down machine in ridiculous spots. and afterwards i was thinking about this hand (of course i called down). villain tabled KK and i mucked [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] maybe i will do the math for hands like QQ and AK. but i think even these are debatable when villain doesnt cap JJ/AK oop.
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