Another Nash question. (simple I think) .. eastbay if your out there

[Shroomy]

I have been trying to get my mind around eastbays excellent tutorial (meaning comprehensible to me) included in SNGPT about unexploitable HU play.

I have a simple question, if anything involving the Nash equilibrium is simple.

If you wanted to use the strategy and the opponent makes a non all in raise, what is your response?

I assume the proper play is to fold or push all in, but how does his bet affect the range of hands you would push with?

Would they be the same hands you would push with in the SB if you just recomputed your R value after the bet and pretended the blinds were equal to the pot?


(on a trivial side note, does anyone know if the R values in the SNGPT tutorial are computed using the stack sizes before or after posting the blinds?)

[Shandrax]

As far as I know the system doesn't cover limping or small raises, because it changes the potodds you are getting significantly.

[StregaChess]

Yes but this is a great question cause it does come up a lot in actual play. My current trend of thought is you have to make a read if he's already mentally pot committed or more simply, is he of the mindset that if you push he’s going to call.
If that’s the case, can’t you logically pretend he “pushed” first and make your decision on that basis. Yes/No?

Love the question......

[CyberNerd]

I don't know what the optimal play is in these situations, but this is what I do:

1. When I am the BB and SB completes, but doesn't push or raise. I push with the same hands I would have from the SB

2. When SB raises but doesn't push allin, I push with anything I would have called an allin with. This must be even greater EV than calling a push as you are gaining fold equity as well

I would be interested in eveyone elses thoughts on this also

[Shandrax]

One thing should be clear, if someone makes a small raise, you should put him all in with all hands that you would have called with if had gone all-in in the first place.

The question is basically reduced to what to do with the inbetween hands, those in the gap.

[jackaaron]

When you are on those decisions (what to do with the in between) I don't think you could go wrong with making the more aggressive decision.

[Shroomy]

Thanks for the reply guys, CyberNerd and Shandrax seem to have the same thoughts as I do, but it would be nice to have some of the theory guys give their thoughts.

AAronBrown, Eastbay, Alan et all.... ??? bueler?

and on a side note, If you know your villain is pushing a tigher group of hands than the nonexploitable eq suggests, you have to recompute your calling range correct?