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09-28-2006, 08:36 AM
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Did Gold\'s out-of-turn fold cost Cunningham this hand?
I posted this in televised poker yesterday and it received little response. I was wondering what this forum thinks.
Description of hand: 4-handed. 200k/400k blinds with 50k ante. Cunningham raises to 800k UTG with 10s. Gold calls (don't remember what he had)from SB; Wasicka calls from BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Flop (2.6 million): A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Check around. Turn (2.6 million): A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Gold checks, Wasicka bets 1 million. Cunningham announces raise and Gold folds out of turn. Cunningham raises to 4 million. Wasicka moves all in. Cunningham folds. Wasicka shows the bluff. 1) Did Gold's out-of-turn fold cause Cunningham to change the amount he was going to raise? 2) Did Gold's out-of-turn fold cost Cunningham this hand? ---- I'm not interested in comments about Gold's character or insults about his flawed action in this hand. I'm just wondering if you think it affected Cunningham's action and therefore, possibly, the rest of the hand. I haven't made up my mind yet. 
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09-28-2006, 02:21 PM
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Re: Did Gold\'s out-of-turn fold cost Cunningham this hand?
you'd have to ask cunningham, we have no way of knowing his decision process
I'd guess that this factored in given Gold's loose play, but it was a bad raise anyways so I'm not to keen on laying the blame on Gold regardless
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#4
09-28-2006, 02:27 PM
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Re: Did Gold\'s out-of-turn fold cost Cunningham this hand?
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1) Did Gold's out-of-turn fold cause Cunningham to change the amount he was going to raise? 2) Did Gold's out-of-turn fold cost Cunningham this hand? [/ QUOTE ] 1) Maybe. 2) No.
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09-28-2006, 03:00 PM
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Re: Did Gold\'s out-of-turn fold cost Cunningham this hand?
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[ QUOTE ] 1) Did Gold's out-of-turn fold cause Cunningham to change the amount he was going to raise? 2) Did Gold's out-of-turn fold cost Cunningham this hand? [/ QUOTE ] 1) Maybe. 2) No. [/ QUOTE ] Could you elaborate on this? After thinking about it a bit, I think that Cunningham may have raised more if he thought Gold was still in the hand, perhaps to an amount that would have committed him to the pot. If that had occurred, Wasicka might not have raised all-in, or if he did, Cunningham might have called. Either way, Cunningham played extremely scared in this hand. He had a great read on Gold, but when Wasicka called the PF bet, Cunningham looked afraid.
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