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Old 09-28-2006, 02:57 AM
absoludicrous absoludicrous is offline
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Default TP + NFD on Paired Board - WTF DO I DO!!!!

2nd orbit, no reads. The turn feels like a J a high percentage of the time. If I had reads or knew villain was 2p2 or smart, I could spot this as a raising FD. Given my lack of reads, I just don't know what to do on this turn. I don't want to get c/r'd for my stack on the turn.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($122.43)
MP ($88.75)
CO ($79)
Hero ($98.50)
SB ($123.55)
BB ($197.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $23</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($58.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: TP + NFD on Paired Board - WTF DO I DO!!!!

Where are you guys?
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: TP + NFD on Paired Board - WTF DO I DO!!!!

I would just push the turn. That would be a strange way to play a J on such a drawy board.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: TP + NFD on Paired Board - WTF DO I DO!!!!

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I would just push the turn. That would be a strange way to play a J on such a drawy board.

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A thinking player would never play a jack this way. But I have to catagorize this guy as an idiot, and most bad players would play a jack this way.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: TP + NFD on Paired Board - WTF DO I DO!!!!

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Where are you guys?

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patience is a virtue

I think its fine
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:10 AM
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Where are you guys?

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patience is a virtue

I think its fine

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No, I know. I just saw 5 other very standard hands posted after me with several replies, and I think this hand merits some discussion.

I'll wait till more regulars get on.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:54 AM
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I'm always checking behind here. If he's got a jack he's not folding (and you probably still have outs) and if he doesn't have a jack there really aren't that many cards he can be drawing to, so you don't mind giving a free card.

I don't really see any point in betting.

Just check and re-evaluate on the river.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:55 AM
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Easy check. It saves money when he has a jack, and allows you to extract on the river better when he doesn't.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:04 AM
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check behind.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: TP + NFD on Paired Board - WTF DO I DO!!!!

how much would you guys call on a non diamond river?
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