QTs, BB vs. TAG

[Redeye]

Villian is a TAG. I haven't played a ton against this guy, but he seems decent and hasn't done anything out of the norm.

I am trying to work on hands against better players.

I really want to fold this turn. Yes? No?

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>

[poisonxfree]

Ugh. I hate spots like this because this is usually a monster but I am really bad at folding TPGK in a HU pot.

[sharpie]

I would just fold PF against a CO raise. Against a TAG's button raise I'd 3 bet PF.

I wouldn't fold. He could easily have made a loose peel on the flop with AJ or KJ and be raising that. Maybe he's freeshowdowning A8 or a pocket pair. Maybe he's semibluffing a combo draw like K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

[Redeye]

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Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11BB


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Your not calling here with this hand against an aggressive player? This is a pretty standard call for me here against most players. Anyways, the preflop stuff is never that exciting.

I to typically tend to calldown top pair a lot, but I think sometimes I do it too much, especially against decent TAGs that are typically likely to play pretty straightforward.

I think you may be right about the fold here, but I just am not sure that TAGs are freeshowdown raising other TAGs in spots like these often at 5/10 (at least as often as they probably should.)

[gehrig]

dont call pf unless the bb is really terrible. u would much rather play heads up w the initiative than three-ways playing fit or fold. i would typically fold unless i am stuck for the day in which case a raise is mandatory

[Scary_Tiger]

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dont call pf unless the bb is really terrible. u would much rather play heads up w the initiative than three-ways playing fit or fold. i would typically fold unless i am stuck for the day in which case a raise is mandatory

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qft - That is, fold preflop.

I would just call down. I'm not much for folding pairs versus aggressive opponents, much less top pair.

[cwar]

Agree fold pf. Probably a call down as played