3betting the river all-in 200nl

pmuir10 · #1 09-26-2006, 07:02 PM

Although different people, both of the villains in these hands were like, 38/9/1, so obv not very good..

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($198)
MP ($240.86)
Hero ($217.55)
Button ($257.75)
SB ($348.21)
BB ($246.62)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, Button calls $7, 2 folds.

Flop: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($17) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $11, Button calls $11.

River: ($39) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $30, Button raises to $75, Hero calls $169.55 (All-In), Button calls $124.55.
 As soon as he raised I thought he had JT but after some more figuring i decided he had 2pair enough that he would payoff a push. Im 70% or so sure that this guy would call my push with 2pair.

Final Pot: $438.10

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Button ($318.80)
SB ($219.80)
Hero ($349.18)
UTG ($178.45)
MP ($575.80)
CO ($414.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, Button raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, UTG calls $3, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($21) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Button checks.
 I think i prefer a flop lead here, don't really recall why i checked. 

Turn: ($21) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG calls $15, CO folds, Button calls $15.

River: ($66) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $40, UTG raises to $90, Button folds, Hero calls $289.18 (All-In), UTG calls $68.45 (All-In).
 I think A9 is the lowest hand in the range of hands that i would push here. 

Final Pot: $553.63

tubasteve · #2 09-26-2006, 07:06 PM

all standard, sorry you went broke

carnivalhobo · #3 09-26-2006, 07:13 PM

i think both should be calls of his raise, and the second one is closer to a fold.

this guy is LP and he slowplays then just over minraises the river, he has a huge hand. I think you see a higher set or JT almost always in the first hand, and you get shown 55/22 always in number 2.

pmuir10 · #4 09-26-2006, 07:15 PM

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i think both should be calls of his raise, and the second one is closer to a fold.

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im never folding either of these, its call or push.

Siingo · #5 09-26-2006, 07:15 PM

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i think both should be calls of his raise.

this guy is LP and he slowplays then just over minraises the river, he has a huge hand. I think you see a higher set or JT almost always in the first hand, and you get shown 55/22 always in number 2.

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In the first hand, lets say he has 2 pair or worse 70% of the time and call 70% of those times then there is still not value in your RR right?!

carnivalhobo · #6 09-26-2006, 07:23 PM

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i think both should be calls of his raise, and the second one is closer to a fold.

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im never folding either of these, its call or push.

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thats fine, i dont really fold when i play, just when i post, but i think a raise sucks in both spots.

Nepthu · #7 09-26-2006, 07:23 PM

First hand I would call the river instead of raise against a 'standard' player. If he was really a caller with marginal hands than I might raise all in.

Second hand there isn't much left in the stacks so a call and raise are fairly close. He will probably have to call you with a weaker 9.

SABR42 · #8 09-26-2006, 07:27 PM

First hand is a call.

I think he'll have JT here nearly everytime if he isn't bluffing. If he's bluffing pushing has no value anyway.

The reason, why would he slowplay TWO streets with two pair? If he's raising for value it's gotta be JT.