AQo Party .5/1

[QueBob]

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players
Converter

First hand post...
Villain is 17/5 after 50 hands.


Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 6 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero???(6.25BB)

I put him on AT.

[sarsen]

What about a flush draw?

[DrModern]

You can't reliably put your villain on AT. Even if he's 17/5, he'll have a looser range when calling out of the big blind. What's more, if I were villain, I wouldn't donk AT here, I'd check-raise. But on the other hand, I've noticed that donking the turn when improved seems to be the new, trendy thing for villains to do.

That said, I think the turn is a call. If he does have a two-pair hand like AT, you have ~7 outs for an easy call getting 7.5 to 1.

This consideration is counterbalanced by the fact that villain might have a flush or a straight, devaluing your hand. You have some outs against the straight.

The river, I'd have to say, really depends.

[Buzz-cp]

I would probably see a SD with a non-[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] river. It's pretty close though.

[Befolder]

Yeah. I don't like that 2nd consecutive donk bet, and even though I've seen bad players do this twice with a weak ace, this guy isn't doing that if he's a 17 VPP. It is close between a fold and a call. I'm a sucker sometimes though so I call and hope for a non heart king on the river, hoping he didn't just hit the flush.

[Aaron W.]

Don't raise and don't fold.

[jspr]

Call, you have a pretty strong hand and you're getting 7 to 1 with about 7 outs(6.5 to 1), but the non-heart queens might not be full outs either, if he has AK. I would call.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

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Don't raise and don't fold.

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i agree. calling is bad also.

[QueBob]

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Don't raise and don't fold.

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i agree. calling is bad also.

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LOL,

Ya, there's no way I give myself 7 outs with that flush draw. I'm either raising to know where I'm at or folding.

[DrModern]

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Don't raise and don't fold.

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i agree. calling is bad also.

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Um...So don't raise, don't call, and don't fold?

WTF I never understand you Pooh-Bah types.