2/4 B&M - TPTK, bet bet bet?

[gobbledygeek]

2/4 B&M, 10 handed, loose & fairly passive table (6/7+ to flop)

Villain (MP3) is a lot tighter preflop than all of the other players in this hand (except me). She might be a little puck shy right now as she's had the very loose B/SB/BB/UTG players make lottsa stupid hands on her.

Hero (UTG+2) has been card dead all night so hasn't played many hands. I've probably raised 50% of the hands I have come in with only to usually completely miss the flop and had to go out early, so perhaps my raising isn't respected at all.

PreFlop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Villain struggles with her coldcall, CO folds, Button coldcalls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls

Flop: (6 players, 12 SB) K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, Villain raises, Button coldcalls, SB coldcalls, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls

Turn: (4 players, 10 BB) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero bets, Villain calls, Button calls, SB folds

River: (3 players, 13 BB) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero bets...

I'm sure preflop is fine but I'm a little unsure on other streets. Should I have 3bet the flop? The board is kinda coordinated so I didn't. The turn and river are perfect cards for me so is betting out correct?

Gcluelessnoobgettingslaughteredatloosepassive2/4tableG

[Mygtar]

I like the pre-flop and flop.

I would have tried to c/r the turn though (and pray for a blank). With the flop raiser on your left you can c/r and hopefully trap the field for an extra bet.

River is good.

Peace,
Mygtar

[James.]

yep, yep, yep. since you didn't 3bet the flop leading the turn is boss.

[nooob]

i 3 bet the flop.

[Gazzbut]

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yep, yep, yep. since you didn't 3bet the flop leading the turn is boss.

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Wouldnt the fact he didnt 3bet the flop mean he has a good chance of getting a c/r in on the turn here and picking up an extra bet he may not get on the river if villians drawing and misses?

[Aces McGee]

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would have tried to c/r the turn though

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This board is too draw-heavy to risk the turn getting checked through.

-McGee

[mrcunningham]

Preflop: standard
flop: reraise/call and reeval on the turn
turn: as played, bet
river: on this passive table, bet, as the villain calls down often with K worse kicker, and button likely just missed either a flush or straight draw. If raised consider folding unless you think this passive player can get tricky.

[gobbledygeek]

Just so I understand, what's the point of 3betting the flop on this board? Is it because I still have likely the best hand and want to make drawing hands pay?

Let's say I did 3bet and everyone calls (which is what I believe would have happened in this hand). How does that change how I play the turn and river? Would I still lead the turn not wanting to give a free card or would I risk the check/raise?

[mrcunningham]

First, I'm just learning here, too, but I'd 3bet because I think there is a good chance that you have the best hand.

Given the 4s, which is a great card for you, I lead the turn as I think there is still a good chance that you have the best hand. However, if you get reraised on this fairly passive table you have to consider a fold.

Anyone else?

[Fat Nicky]

The point of 3-betting is for value. When you 3-bet the flop, bet the turn, going for a check/raise is silly.