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Old 09-25-2006, 08:05 PM
Jingleheimer Jingleheimer is offline
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Default List a major leak

It might be interesting to see what everyone's major leaks are. Although I'm sure we all have many, list one that you think costs yourself the most money, general circumstances, give a hand example of it, and what you think you need to do to fix it.

I'll start:

Lately I have been hemorraging money raising people who donk bet into me.

$50NL, full stacks.
Hero has Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in CO.
Two limpers to me, I raise to $3. All fold to second limper, who calls.

Pot = $7.25
Flop 952r
Limper bets $4. I raise to $14. Limper pushes.

Sometimes these smallish leads are weak, like underpairs wanting to find out where they are. Evidently this one was intended to make action and induce my raise. Not really used to seeing plays like this at $50NL. I suppose I should just fold this up and go to the next hand, but when it works, it's nice, and I can't let people think they can take pots away from me. But it's pretty expensive when I'm wrong.

What's your expensive leak?
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:16 PM
4_2_it 4_2_it is offline
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Number 1 Leak of SSNLers: Missing Value Bets

It's hard to quantify because it's money you didn't win. Can't measure opportunity cost.
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: List a major leak

I also try to raise donk bets too much.

I get a little too attached to top-pair hands sometimes.

I think I might c-bet a little too much.

I call down too much with less than great odds, especially when people have donked the flop.

I'm making a concious effort to change these things though.
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:33 PM
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AT oop,
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: List a major leak

try to bluff villian when i kno he has a made hand such as middle pair or tpxk. also goes with firing 2nd barels too often.
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: List a major leak

# 2 leak-

FPS. Fancy play syndrome.
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Old 09-25-2006, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: List a major leak

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Number 1 Leak of SSNLers: Missing Value Bets

It's hard to quantify because it's money you didn't win. Can't measure opportunity cost.

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Also, not just missing bets, but bet sizing.

Also, I hate these types of threads with a passion.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:16 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Number 1 Leak of SSNLers: Missing Value Bets

It's hard to quantify because it's money you didn't win. Can't measure opportunity cost.

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Also, not just missing bets, but bet sizing.

Also, I hate these types of threads with a passion.

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OP posted a leak and an example hand, but other posters didnt follow his example. I for one think he started an A-OK thread.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:23 PM
EMc EMc is offline
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I think this thread would be better if posters posted a common leak and then their proposed solution.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:28 PM
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try to bluff villian when i kno he has a made hand such as middle pair or tpxk. also goes with firing 2nd barels too often.

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fixed for EMC
lately i have been telling myself before i even start up not to bluff and to just play abc because it seems to happen at the begining of a sesh and then after i bluff away a stack or 2 i remeber that bluffing sux and doesnt work and start to tag it up and play abc and have to work my way back to even for tha sesh.

but it seems like when i remend myself of this before i start i play much more abc like from the start and thus have much more success
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