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Old 09-24-2006, 01:01 AM
AtticusFinch AtticusFinch is offline
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Default Fold queens pf?

FTP 20k. 16k stack. (Average is 8k). 120/240 blinds. QQ on the BB. UTG limps, button limps. I raise to 1100. UTG shoves for 9k. Button folds.

Should I consider laying it down? If no, what if I had JJ?
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: Fold queens pf?

This is such the classic limp rerraise with AA/KK. Laying QQ is really tough, had you noticed him doing any other limp RRing?

Every now and then i see people do this 99-JJ but most common is the two big ones and ur risking 60% of ur stack on it. I might lay it down this time.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:21 AM
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Yep, looks like the classic aa-kk limp push. Even if it's AK it's a flip. There's much to be said for protecting my stack here. Anyone think folding is way too weak?
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:23 AM
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I might lay it down this time.

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Heh. Yeah, it's a LRR.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:26 AM
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Yep, looks like the classic aa-kk limp push. Even if it's AK it's a flip. There's much to be said for protecting my stack here. Anyone think folding is way too weak?

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Not in the least, i think its way hard though. Mucking them is easier said than done, but i think this time it has to be done.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:33 AM
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Reads on villain. Don't discount 77-JJ but definitely weigh them less.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:39 AM
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Reads on villain. Don't discount 77-JJ but definitely weigh them less.

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Villain is aggressive but I haven't seen him show down too many, so hard to know his range. This is the first limp-reraise I've seen him make. It's 6-max, though, so it being UTG is slightly less extreme.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:45 AM
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Losing leaves you ~7k. Winnning gets you off and running for a deep run.

Worst-case, you drop to slightly below average.

Looks like a good spot.
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Old 09-24-2006, 02:13 AM
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Callcallcallcallcallcallcallcallcall.
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