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09-23-2006, 09:15 PM
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K high calldown
56/6/1.2 over about 350. I think he would bet any part of this flop so I called his turn bet and the river card was about as good as I could hope for so I called again, but he is fairly tricky
Cryptologic Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $2/$4 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 folds, SB calls, Hero checks. Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2SB, 2 players) SB checks, Hero checks. Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (1BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls. River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls. 
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#4
09-23-2006, 11:15 PM
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Re: K high calldown
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Given your read, not betting the flop is pretty bad. [/ QUOTE ] Just because he probably would bet the flop with any piece doesn't mean he wouldn't also C/R me with or without one, and I can't calldown K high after a C/R even if I should.
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#5
09-23-2006, 11:47 PM
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Re: K high calldown
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[ QUOTE ] Given your read, not betting the flop is pretty bad. [/ QUOTE ] Just because he probably would bet the flop with any piece doesn't mean he wouldn't also C/R me with or without one, and I can't calldown K high after a C/R even if I should. [/ QUOTE ] You were there I guess. I would almost never check this flop no matter the opponent or flop or hand. I don't see anything in this hand or in your read that would change that for me, but maybe you know something that I don't.
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#7
09-24-2006, 02:58 PM
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Re: K high calldown
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Given your read, not betting the flop is pretty bad. [/ QUOTE ] Just because he probably would bet the flop with any piece doesn't mean he wouldn't also C/R me with or without one, and I can't calldown K high after a C/R even if I should. [/ QUOTE ] You were there I guess. I would almost never check this flop no matter the opponent or flop or hand. I don't see anything in this hand or in your read that would change that for me, but maybe you know something that I don't. [/ QUOTE ] How often are you taking A high or K high to showdown after betting this flop and getting C/Red? I never do and I think it's a leak, but I don't know when to call down. If he calls what's your line on this board. Bet flop check turn % of time you call this river.
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#8
09-24-2006, 03:40 PM
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Re: K high calldown
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Given your read, not betting the flop is pretty bad. [/ QUOTE ] Just because he probably would bet the flop with any piece doesn't mean he wouldn't also C/R me with or without one, and I can't calldown K high after a C/R even if I should. [/ QUOTE ] You were there I guess. I would almost never check this flop no matter the opponent or flop or hand. I don't see anything in this hand or in your read that would change that for me, but maybe you know something that I don't. [/ QUOTE ] How often are you taking A high or K high to showdown after betting this flop and getting C/Red? I never do and I think it's a leak, but I don't know when to call down. [/ QUOTE ] This isn't really the opponent or the board to be calling down here. While he's not passive, he is not a wacko either from his stats. So if he cr's you he probably has a pair or a good draw. So if you’re good he has 14 outs and if he's good you have like 3. Pretty much if he cr you, just fold the flop. It sounds weak, but you have an extremely vulnerable marginal hand on a drawy board in a tiny pot. This is a huge RIO situation. [ QUOTE ] If he calls what's your line on this board. Bet flop check turn % of time you call this river. [/ QUOTE ] Honestly I'd never have anything I could bet the turn because I would have raised them all pf.
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#9
09-24-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: K high calldown
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Honestly I'd never have anything I could bet the turn because I would have raised them all pf. [/ QUOTE ] You raise all K highs+ when a LAGGY postflop player open completes? Not saying its wrong just think that Im not good enough postflop to do it.
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