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Old 01-27-2006, 04:54 AM
pokerstudAA pokerstudAA is offline
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Default Final Table - must I call here with T3s

Help me out here. Is this a mandatory call? Table was getting push happy and villian could have Ax, any pair, Kx, anything. My stack was healthy and I was 4th in chips. Blinds 4k/8k. I was the BB and the small blind folded.

I have to call 15k to win 35k. 2.2:1 or so. Call? I will still have 75k left if I call and lose. Good time to gamble with teh worst of it? Or am I just another idiot fish?

***** Hand History for Game 3444837671 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:19586165 Level:18 Blinds (4000/8000) - Friday, January 27, 03:46:48 EDT 2006
Table Multi-Table(579033) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Lewdogg ( $23285 )
Seat 3: BigRed6 ( $116857 )
Seat 4: ddog73 ( $47360 )
Seat 5: jwgnjgbcg ( $202029 )
Seat 6: pokerstudAA ( $86880 )
Seat 8: weakace111 ( $55396 )
Seat 9: HopKen ( $76448 )
Seat 10: woodbridge1 ( $144745 )
Trny:19586165 Level:18
Blinds (4000/8000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to pokerstudAA [ 3d Td ]
weakace111 folds.
HopKen folds.
woodbridge1 folds.
Lewdogg is all-In [23285]
BigRed6 folds.
ddog73 folds.
jwgnjgbcg folds.
pokerstudAA calls [15285].

50570 chips in the main pot
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: Final Table - must I call here with T3s

gamboooool.
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: Final Table - must I call here with T3s

yeah.
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: Final Table - must I call here with T3s

You have blue cards. Not folding.
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Old 01-27-2006, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Final Table - must I call here with T3s

OK. I made the call but I am still not 100% sure on the exact logic behind it. What is it here that makes this such an easy call with any two? And does 27o mean any two - I would tend to limit this call a little bit.

Pot Odds? 36:15 ish.
Stack sizes? He is the short stack, he cannot bust me, and I will not be crippled by the call. Does this call with any two changed based on stack sizes/chip positions? Winning his chips would be nice and imporve my chip situation greatly.
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Old 01-27-2006, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: Final Table - must I call here with T3s

As you say, you are getting 2.4-1. SB will probably push with any two. T3s is 46% against a random hand. This is not borderline as far as cEV.

If you would be crippled by losing, it is still a call in an MTT, except in some unusual final table or bubble situations.
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Old 01-27-2006, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Final Table - must I call here with T3s

Since he is all-in, it is a simple math problem. Let's assume he's pushing with the top 40% of hands. I don't think he's pushing with any two, since he can still see a couple of hands for free.

If you fold, you will have 78,880 chips.

If you call, then you will 35% of the time and lose 65% of the time.
35% of the time you will have 114,165 chips
65% of the time you will have 71,595 chips
Average: 86,494 chips.

So, on average, even assuming that the pusher is tighter than you gave him credit for, you are winning 8,000 chips.

By the way, if you have 72o, you still should call. You will win 29% of the time. Average: 83,940 chips. It's not even a close call.

The only time I would think of folding is if losing the hand severely limits my options in playing future hands (in other words, it takes up too big a chunk of my stack). Though sometimes I would even call in those situations, depending.
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Old 01-27-2006, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Final Table - must I call here with T3s

Easy call for me. I'll take that gamble. It's folded to small stack so he probably moving with a lot of hands here. Like you said you're still at 75k if you lose which still keeps you at about the same chip position. It'll also send a message to shorties that might try and steal with marginal hands, that you'll call with some real trash.
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