$20/$40 hand

drbk2 · #1 09-23-2006, 01:25 PM

At the Borgata. not a very good game, I'm playing it with my friend before going to bed.

Preflop: Unlike what had been going on, 4 players limp to me. I limp with 8d7d, blinds check.

Flop: J 6 5 two hearts. Big blind who usually plays pretty conservatively but is on a huge rush leads. A loose overaggressive guy calls, and I call.

Turn: some blank I forgot. Checked around.

River: 9h. Big blind leads, guy calls, I raise.

Guruman · #2 09-23-2006, 01:51 PM

is this not a standard freecard raise spot?

flush draws will stay honest here, and a lot of limps are only paired up on that flop.

citizenwind · #3 09-23-2006, 06:06 PM

8 bets in the pot on the flop, closing the action, unraised pot = raise. You're probably not going to get 3-bet, and can take a very sexy free card.

drbk2 · #4 09-23-2006, 09:29 PM

yeah maybe a raise on the flop is best. how about the river raise?

The DaveR · #5 09-23-2006, 09:54 PM

That's a bad flop to raise. You want to call and make the turn action easier to interpret if it's not a good card.

34TheTruth34 · #6 09-24-2006, 12:51 AM

raise preflop, especially if you're not on the button

Barry · #7 09-24-2006, 02:59 AM

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Unless BB is pretty passive, I'm not a big fan of raising for a free card here on the flop. On the river, it sure looks like the BB made his flush, I'd just call.

poker1O1 · #8 09-24-2006, 05:10 AM

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raise preflop, especially if you're not on the button

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most def

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Unless BB is pretty passive, I'm not a big fan of raising for a free card here on the flop. On the river, it sure looks like the BB made his flush, I'd just call.

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flop is a raise. given that the turn checked thru and you appeared to be drawing, I like a river call.

Mr. T · #9 09-24-2006, 08:56 AM

Call the river. The way BB played it it looks like he made a flush. The only worse hands that call you if you raise would be poorly played sets or two pair which don't seem likely give that the turn was checked through.

mr pink · #10 09-24-2006, 09:32 AM

what's the problem?

conservative types usually don't bet this flop unless they can bet/3bet... so trying for a free card is shady at best.

turn check is fine.

river raise is fine too. yeah the flush got there, but w/dumb LAG calling villain's river donk, you're getting 2 to 1 on your raise. lot's of 2 pair hands will look you up here.

its an easy fold to a 3town if conservative guy takes it there.